Posted Jun 26, 2007 at 07:14PM by Nicolo S.
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A shocking statistic we found out though is that between 1,500 to 2,500 consoles get sent to Havant by three UPS lorries per day, to then be shipped to Prague for repair. [We] phoned up Nora the [customer service] supervisor again, who then admitted my console was in Prague and hadn’t been looked at yet – she seemed amazed that we knew! I just spoke to the customer support people because my 360 has been gone since the 8th of June. Apparently because of the backlog in Havant they’re sending 360s to repair centres outside the UK! And that because of this Microsoft are legally allowed an additional ten days to get your 360 back to you. |
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by xman (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» haha
lol the 360 sucks
lol the 360 sucks
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Re: Quixand - 2007-06-26 |
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» hahaha
official statement from microsoft!!!
good times.
official statement from microsoft!!!
good times.
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Re: kl;l; (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» ALl I have to say about this is.....
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
and...................................................xbox 360 sucks. good night everyone!
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
xbox 360 sucks
and...................................................xbox 360 sucks. good night everyone!
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Re: GOPAL892005 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» !
all i have to say is that: my 1st XBOX 360 got RLoD after 1yr [launch console Manufactured Nov 05], now on my second XBOX 360 + all is going perfectly > playing for 4hrs non-stop + havn't got a single lock-up or crash - it doesn't even get that hot! :D i'm a happy X360 user, looks like one of the few.
all i have to say is that: my 1st XBOX 360 got RLoD after 1yr [launch console Manufactured Nov 05], now on my second XBOX 360 + all is going perfectly > playing for 4hrs non-stop + havn't got a single lock-up or crash - it doesn't even get that hot! :D i'm a happy X360 user, looks like one of the few.
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Re: PS3Rider (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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I dont quite understand why trading stadards in the UK get involved, im sure if they got enough complaints then Microsoft would either have to sort out the console or face having the console retricted from selling in the UK.
I know that I am getting my 360 as soon as Game.co.uk have some good deals on instead of just spiderman3 and forza which I do not like. But when I buy my 360 I am getting a 3 year extended warranty and the intercooler, this way im guarenteed a 360 for 3 years which is what any console should last.
I dont quite understand why trading stadards in the UK get involved, im sure if they got enough complaints then Microsoft would either have to sort out the console or face having the console retricted from selling in the UK.
I know that I am getting my 360 as soon as Game.co.uk have some good deals on instead of just spiderman3 and forza which I do not like. But when I buy my 360 I am getting a 3 year extended warranty and the intercooler, this way im guarenteed a 360 for 3 years which is what any console should last.
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Re: Hellraiser (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» Trolling PS3 fantards, what is better?
A expensive system that is only out 7 months and does not have widespread overheating problems, but has very little to do on it? Still only 2 exclusive games, only about 30 games total, big, useless system. When the inevitable disc read errors start appearing will they even be repairable? All sony systems got disc read errors after 2-4 years, when will your POS3? Do they even have a repair center, or will you just shell out another $600?
OR...
A real life gaming system with the best games available NOW, with a small chance of overheating and being fixed free under warranty? This is Microsoft's problem, and they are doing plenty to take care of it.
Then shut the f*ck up.
A expensive system that is only out 7 months and does not have widespread overheating problems, but has very little to do on it? Still only 2 exclusive games, only about 30 games total, big, useless system. When the inevitable disc read errors start appearing will they even be repairable? All sony systems got disc read errors after 2-4 years, when will your POS3? Do they even have a repair center, or will you just shell out another $600?
OR...
A real life gaming system with the best games available NOW, with a small chance of overheating and being fixed free under warranty? This is Microsoft's problem, and they are doing plenty to take care of it.
Then shut the f*ck up.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-06-27 |
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Up until recently, I had no idea there was widespread problems with the slim PS2. This is because sony keeps any of their product defects under tight wraps. They don't offer any repairs really. Buy a new one, that's the repair. Just a 90 day warranty there. All sony systems have been suseptible to defects, just most of them do not appear until 2-4 years for owning the system. Just wait c0cky PS3 owners, soon your near useless PS3 will be a real useless PS3 and sony will not fix your system because they never did for my PS2, I did it myself.
They had so much extra time to develop the PS3 and it cost so much more, it would be hard to screw up. Look at that case! It's huge! No wonder it has no overheating problems. No wonder it isn't abused as much. It is not portable. It has no games, so why bring it to your friend's house? It also explains the easy scratch finish, sony wants you to treat it with prestine care. You can't stack anything on top to block the cooling vents. You can't mess up the disc mechanism by moving it with a disc inside (people should know that by now but don't.) The PS3 still just isn't worth it.
Up until recently, I had no idea there was widespread problems with the slim PS2. This is because sony keeps any of their product defects under tight wraps. They don't offer any repairs really. Buy a new one, that's the repair. Just a 90 day warranty there. All sony systems have been suseptible to defects, just most of them do not appear until 2-4 years for owning the system. Just wait c0cky PS3 owners, soon your near useless PS3 will be a real useless PS3 and sony will not fix your system because they never did for my PS2, I did it myself.
They had so much extra time to develop the PS3 and it cost so much more, it would be hard to screw up. Look at that case! It's huge! No wonder it has no overheating problems. No wonder it isn't abused as much. It is not portable. It has no games, so why bring it to your friend's house? It also explains the easy scratch finish, sony wants you to treat it with prestine care. You can't stack anything on top to block the cooling vents. You can't mess up the disc mechanism by moving it with a disc inside (people should know that by now but don't.) The PS3 still just isn't worth it.
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Re: .. (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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Lollollol Mr Microsofts's who-r-e is at it again...what a blind..ignorant... useless excuse for an existence...
Lollollol Mr Microsofts's who-r-e is at it again...what a blind..ignorant... useless excuse for an existence...
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Re: Jobo50 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» Total BS
i doubt this is true, like it says
"Do note that we haven't confirmed credibility of these guys. So 'til we hear any official statement from Microsoft on this (if they do give out one), let's leave this one on the rumor mill."
I think there are PS3 fanboys behind this, just like how they're behind global warming... or maybe its Al Gore....
i doubt this is true, like it says
"Do note that we haven't confirmed credibility of these guys. So 'til we hear any official statement from Microsoft on this (if they do give out one), let's leave this one on the rumor mill."
I think there are PS3 fanboys behind this, just like how they're behind global warming... or maybe its Al Gore....
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Re: Matt (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» Just got mine back, actually.
Yeah, they suck, but they are the only console for online play. Don't try to argue.
Yeah, they suck, but they are the only console for online play. Don't try to argue.
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by KillerHurdz (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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they really need to get their act together. And to the above post... let me guess your age... 14 or younger? Thought so. Smarten up, no one wants to hear your negativity.
My friend just got his 360 back today, so far it's ok. He suffered from the ROD, like most people.
they really need to get their act together. And to the above post... let me guess your age... 14 or younger? Thought so. Smarten up, no one wants to hear your negativity.
My friend just got his 360 back today, so far it's ok. He suffered from the ROD, like most people.
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Re: xman (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» lol
no im only 10. you know that the 360 sucks
no im only 10. you know that the 360 sucks
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Re: MGSROCKS1 - 2007-06-27 |
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» ^^^^^^
Stop pretending to be Xman, we all know your not Xman and you aren't funny by pretending to be him. Where is Xman anyways?
Stop pretending to be Xman, we all know your not Xman and you aren't funny by pretending to be him. Where is Xman anyways?
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Re: Jobo50 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» I dont get it
how are so many poeples 360's overheating, what are they doing, putting it on their fireplace? I had to return my first 360 because it scratched the discs a tiny bit, my second one, which i have had for over a year, hasnt had any problems.
how are so many poeples 360's overheating, what are they doing, putting it on their fireplace? I had to return my first 360 because it scratched the discs a tiny bit, my second one, which i have had for over a year, hasnt had any problems.
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by ROFL What? (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» This guy is obviously
Just spittin nonsense. Look:
1500 X 365 = 547,500
2500 X 365 = 912,500
So they repair 1/20 - 1/10 xboxs? This one factory? And people continue to buy the 360 because obviously every tenth person is doomed right?
Just spittin nonsense. Look:
1500 X 365 = 547,500
2500 X 365 = 912,500
So they repair 1/20 - 1/10 xboxs? This one factory? And people continue to buy the 360 because obviously every tenth person is doomed right?
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Re: KillerHurdz (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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Hey... you know the 360 has been out for more than 365 days right? So your math is flawed. It is closer to 1/3 than you think. Which is really disapointing to say the least.
Hey... you know the 360 has been out for more than 365 days right? So your math is flawed. It is closer to 1/3 than you think. Which is really disapointing to say the least.
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Re: V (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» doesn't add up
yea this article is full of *****, I like how trolls come along and make up this crap. I know 15 people with a 360 and one has had a problem. Maybe they're giving all their crap systems to the UK? haha
yea this article is full of *****, I like how trolls come along and make up this crap. I know 15 people with a 360 and one has had a problem. Maybe they're giving all their crap systems to the UK? haha
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Re: Beejbc (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» on my 3rd xbox
youre lucky if only 1 of 15 of your friends need a new one. think of the unlucky bastards that need it replaced more than once. My first unit died within 24 hours. Good thing they didnt put that power brick inside or my house would have burned down.
youre lucky if only 1 of 15 of your friends need a new one. think of the unlucky bastards that need it replaced more than once. My first unit died within 24 hours. Good thing they didnt put that power brick inside or my house would have burned down.
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by skidz (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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Well everyone goes through this, fortunately to counter balance the downside of the 360, it does have the best games and many exclusives. Still better than the PS3, no where near a good PC. ;)
Well everyone goes through this, fortunately to counter balance the downside of the 360, it does have the best games and many exclusives. Still better than the PS3, no where near a good PC. ;)
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Re: KillerHurdz (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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Thankyou. And who was "ROFL What?" talking to? Doomed?... oh common man thats obviously your fanboy side talking for you. That or your just ignorant towards anyone you can be to boost your self esteme.
Anyways... they need to release something to the public ASAP because they are very deep into the lifecycle and if they wait too long it will be almost impossible to fix the problem for everyone.
Thankyou. And who was "ROFL What?" talking to? Doomed?... oh common man thats obviously your fanboy side talking for you. That or your just ignorant towards anyone you can be to boost your self esteme.
Anyways... they need to release something to the public ASAP because they are very deep into the lifecycle and if they wait too long it will be almost impossible to fix the problem for everyone.
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Re: Quixand - 2007-06-26 |
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» how could it be better
than the PS3 when it's a pice of crap that don't work!!!! my PS3 folds 24 hours a day and when i'm home it doesn't rest in playing games... and it just sits there working it quietly...
as for "best games" it's all a matter of opinion per individual... personally there is no game for the 360 that has convinced me to convert... they're all average games at best.
than the PS3 when it's a pice of crap that don't work!!!! my PS3 folds 24 hours a day and when i'm home it doesn't rest in playing games... and it just sits there working it quietly...
as for "best games" it's all a matter of opinion per individual... personally there is no game for the 360 that has convinced me to convert... they're all average games at best.
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Re: Forza 2 > Motorsport, Gears of War > Resistance (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» Ugh, the bad news for 360 starts up, and all the annoying, ignorant PS3 fools come out of hiding
What the hell does "everyone goes through this" mean? I've had two consoles so far, one launch system that I upgraded to an Elite, and neither had/have any problems.
Lol @ the above comment, if you really think every single game on the 360 is average at best then you are not a gamer, sorry. And you would have to say the same thing about the PS3, since most of them are multi-paltform (and are usually better on 360). The 360 has at least one amazing game is almost every genre, what planet are you from?
What the hell does "everyone goes through this" mean? I've had two consoles so far, one launch system that I upgraded to an Elite, and neither had/have any problems.
Lol @ the above comment, if you really think every single game on the 360 is average at best then you are not a gamer, sorry. And you would have to say the same thing about the PS3, since most of them are multi-paltform (and are usually better on 360). The 360 has at least one amazing game is almost every genre, what planet are you from?
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Re: Quixand - 2007-06-27 |
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» oh please
racers and fps are the genre which requires the least brain usage to play and that's all the 360 has even worth discussing...
any other genre the playstation has got the best game in that genre... include racing to that with Gran Turismo... u can keep ur Gears Of War (amazing how it is the only worthwhile game on the 360 when it's already nearing two years in the market) and fps is a genre meant for the pc... it's sad if ur console has fps as it's trademark.
racers and fps are the genre which requires the least brain usage to play and that's all the 360 has even worth discussing...
any other genre the playstation has got the best game in that genre... include racing to that with Gran Turismo... u can keep ur Gears Of War (amazing how it is the only worthwhile game on the 360 when it's already nearing two years in the market) and fps is a genre meant for the pc... it's sad if ur console has fps as it's trademark.
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Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-06-27 |
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» ROFL @ average games statement
Wow, you sure are dumb.
But I guess I'd take average games over NO games anyday...
Wow, you sure are dumb.
But I guess I'd take average games over NO games anyday...
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Re: Quixand (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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Sorry I just realized I'm a silly *****1ng jew bag piece of sh1t, xbox is better and has more exclusives. Too bad i'm stuck with resistance and motor storm..
Sorry I just realized I'm a silly *****1ng jew bag piece of sh1t, xbox is better and has more exclusives. Too bad i'm stuck with resistance and motor storm..
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-06-27 |
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» dumbass quixand quotes!
"how could it be better than the PS3 when it's a pice of crap that don't work!!!! "
Almost 16 months now, no problems. I play the s*it out of my 360, I take care of it. I have a fan-cooled entertainment center. Believe me, it works. Average games, HA! Then WTF is Motorstorm and Resistance? The most awesome games ever? Give me a f*cking break! I wouldn't buy either of those games for $20 greatest hits. You pay $60 for them, they are best sellers. You are desperate for games, because you have none. You are in serious denial.
There's no point in a blu ray player, dual format players are the way to go at this point so I'm waiting.
Protein folding hasn't done s*it for cancer so far, but it's killing the environment using 400w electric with tens of thousands of people doing it.
PS3 linux has proven to be useless, as well as the browser if you have a PC (who doesn't)
Someone with 3 PS3s has got to be the biggest idiot in the world. Can I have some money? You have too much.
"how could it be better than the PS3 when it's a pice of crap that don't work!!!! "
Almost 16 months now, no problems. I play the s*it out of my 360, I take care of it. I have a fan-cooled entertainment center. Believe me, it works. Average games, HA! Then WTF is Motorstorm and Resistance? The most awesome games ever? Give me a f*cking break! I wouldn't buy either of those games for $20 greatest hits. You pay $60 for them, they are best sellers. You are desperate for games, because you have none. You are in serious denial.
There's no point in a blu ray player, dual format players are the way to go at this point so I'm waiting.
Protein folding hasn't done s*it for cancer so far, but it's killing the environment using 400w electric with tens of thousands of people doing it.
PS3 linux has proven to be useless, as well as the browser if you have a PC (who doesn't)
Someone with 3 PS3s has got to be the biggest idiot in the world. Can I have some money? You have too much.
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Re: V (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» Quixand
Quixand - Why do you do nothing but troll all day? Seriously though, why do you care about the 360 so much? All you do is cry about how the 360 sux yet you waste such a great amount of your day bashing it. Listen, you're not going to convince anyone that the PS3 is better, we're all happy that you FOLD@Home all day, really, we are.
When I am shopping for dinner or banging my girlfriend I think "Thank GOD that Quixand is Folding right now what would the world do without FOLDING?". I am glad you spent a large amount of money to have a brick sit in your living room doing nothing but burning electricity and FOLDING.
Let me ask you something, when you meet up with your buddies to play magic do you all brag to each other about how much you've folded? Do you guys have Folding competitions? Can I give you advice? When you go on your first date, hopefully with a female that isn't related, don%u2019t for the love of GOD talk about Folding! She will not care! I PROMISE!
Now that I%u2019ve made it clear that no one cares about folding except the PS3 crowd, let%u2019s talk about games. See the problem is you%u2019re so blinding by product name that you have never given any of the 360 games a chance. Which when you think about it is very sad. I believe that if you%u2019re a true gamer you%u2019ll give every system a chance, not just the one you go to bed with.
I myself wouldn%u2019t mind a PS3, but not yet. I have to wait until the price seems justified. So, instead of being a troll how about you help the gaming community and stop being a douche.
Quixand - Why do you do nothing but troll all day? Seriously though, why do you care about the 360 so much? All you do is cry about how the 360 sux yet you waste such a great amount of your day bashing it. Listen, you're not going to convince anyone that the PS3 is better, we're all happy that you FOLD@Home all day, really, we are.
When I am shopping for dinner or banging my girlfriend I think "Thank GOD that Quixand is Folding right now what would the world do without FOLDING?". I am glad you spent a large amount of money to have a brick sit in your living room doing nothing but burning electricity and FOLDING.
Let me ask you something, when you meet up with your buddies to play magic do you all brag to each other about how much you've folded? Do you guys have Folding competitions? Can I give you advice? When you go on your first date, hopefully with a female that isn't related, don%u2019t for the love of GOD talk about Folding! She will not care! I PROMISE!
Now that I%u2019ve made it clear that no one cares about folding except the PS3 crowd, let%u2019s talk about games. See the problem is you%u2019re so blinding by product name that you have never given any of the 360 games a chance. Which when you think about it is very sad. I believe that if you%u2019re a true gamer you%u2019ll give every system a chance, not just the one you go to bed with.
I myself wouldn%u2019t mind a PS3, but not yet. I have to wait until the price seems justified. So, instead of being a troll how about you help the gaming community and stop being a douche.
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Re: Quixand - 2007-06-27 |
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» hey V
did anyone here ask about ur life story????
as for "banging ur girlfriend" must be some ugly bi*tch... good thing u can still do something with her.
did anyone here ask about ur life story????
as for "banging ur girlfriend" must be some ugly bi*tch... good thing u can still do something with her.
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by samurai jones (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» great service
i had the ring of death only recently , called microsoft they ran some checks , decided to have me send it back, waited for the letter (next day) phoned ups and they picked it up 2 hours later...i had an email from microsoft the following day saying they recieved it and the day after that i had another saying it was fixed and i would have it back in 3 days max.... so in 1 week it was repaired and i had it back with a free month of xboxlive. i think that a lot of u are exaggerating to make your story all the more fantastic - stop *****ing and thank your lucky stars you dont have a ps3 (with there no games having asses!!)
i had the ring of death only recently , called microsoft they ran some checks , decided to have me send it back, waited for the letter (next day) phoned ups and they picked it up 2 hours later...i had an email from microsoft the following day saying they recieved it and the day after that i had another saying it was fixed and i would have it back in 3 days max.... so in 1 week it was repaired and i had it back with a free month of xboxlive. i think that a lot of u are exaggerating to make your story all the more fantastic - stop *****ing and thank your lucky stars you dont have a ps3 (with there no games having asses!!)
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-06-27 |
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So true! If you can't play games for 2-3 weeks because your 360 broke, it's still better than not being able to play games on a PS3 because sony won't make them and they blame the 3rd party developers for "choosing not to release them." How weak is that?
So true! If you can't play games for 2-3 weeks because your 360 broke, it's still better than not being able to play games on a PS3 because sony won't make them and they blame the 3rd party developers for "choosing not to release them." How weak is that?
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Re: jbl (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» bhlb
About as weak as you.
Grow up, if you dont have a ps3 dont comment.
About as weak as you.
Grow up, if you dont have a ps3 dont comment.
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by hahaha (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» what retards
all these 360 dying off is making me feel special hahaha mine hasnt got a single problem since day one
MORE RING OF DEATHS PLX XDDDDD
all these 360 dying off is making me feel special hahaha mine hasnt got a single problem since day one
MORE RING OF DEATHS PLX XDDDDD
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by code2006 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» lol
well there u have it. the 360 is the most unreliable item in the world. this is y the ps3 will become the better console.
i mean come one how many ps3's have had a fault? ok a few disk drive problems (but if u imported one its easy to fix if u dont care about warranty).
well there u have it. the 360 is the most unreliable item in the world. this is y the ps3 will become the better console.
i mean come one how many ps3's have had a fault? ok a few disk drive problems (but if u imported one its easy to fix if u dont care about warranty).
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by Killfox (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» Shame on you MS.
This is why i dont want to send my 360 in. I wont see it for like 3 years. Maybe microsoft should have made a reliable console. Xbox seemed pretty reliable. Now they have been adding extra heat sinks.
This is why i dont want to send my 360 in. I wont see it for like 3 years. Maybe microsoft should have made a reliable console. Xbox seemed pretty reliable. Now they have been adding extra heat sinks.
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by Vietone - 2007-06-26 |
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It is the design of the case itself.
The heat sinks aren't the problem but they help with the flaw of the internal design.
The system is poorly designed and they wont admit it. If anyone watched the special on the Xbox360 before it was launched in the US, they had a tour of the Xbox division where they had several prototype designs on a shelf. The person mentioned that they finally decided on the design a few months before production.
Thats less then a few months to test for reliability which is impossible. If anything, they probably didn't test it at all. The issue is the GPU, it does not get the cooling it needs and is offset to the fans and does not get the proper cooling. This is why the new heatsinks have a heat pipe going to the CPU side to compensate.
I stated this fact as soon as I saw people with red lights and the pictures of disassembled Xbox360's. I mentioned it months ago and people called me an idiot who didn't know anything.
On to the subject. The reason they are probably delayed is they are waiting for the new heat sinks. That is my best guess anyway. What is the point in fixing it when theres a strong chance of the system going bad again. They are probably waiting for the new designs.
It is the design of the case itself.
The heat sinks aren't the problem but they help with the flaw of the internal design.
The system is poorly designed and they wont admit it. If anyone watched the special on the Xbox360 before it was launched in the US, they had a tour of the Xbox division where they had several prototype designs on a shelf. The person mentioned that they finally decided on the design a few months before production.
Thats less then a few months to test for reliability which is impossible. If anything, they probably didn't test it at all. The issue is the GPU, it does not get the cooling it needs and is offset to the fans and does not get the proper cooling. This is why the new heatsinks have a heat pipe going to the CPU side to compensate.
I stated this fact as soon as I saw people with red lights and the pictures of disassembled Xbox360's. I mentioned it months ago and people called me an idiot who didn't know anything.
On to the subject. The reason they are probably delayed is they are waiting for the new heat sinks. That is my best guess anyway. What is the point in fixing it when theres a strong chance of the system going bad again. They are probably waiting for the new designs.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-06-27 |
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» wow
Vietone said something halfway intelligent for once!
Probably the biggest problem with the 360's design is they just tried to cram too much into a really small case. The CPU heatsink is great, large size, copper is a great heat conductor, heat pipes carry heat away from the CPU, lots of fan area. The GPU heatsink is under the DVD drive and offset from the fans slightly. Also it is made of aluminum and has no heat pipes and is much shorter (the old design.) This is adequate in ideal conditons, but many people do not ventilate their systems well or use them in a cool environment. I think this may also be causing some of the DVD drive problems as the heat is transferred to the DVD drive case. Standing the unit up partially blocks critical intake passages.
MS is taking care of this problem the best they can. They are not intentionally screwing people over, this is a design oversight and it is costing them more than anyone else.
I'm not concerned about my system because I added the XCM fan upgrade and switched to Arctic Silver heatsink paste. My 360 has been proven reliable and will last forever. Even if the PS3 is so far reliable out of the box, if there's no games and just a blu ray trojan horse it's a rip off in my book!
MS will eventually get all of these problems resolved in new systems, since the cause is basically the same problem.
Vietone said something halfway intelligent for once!
Probably the biggest problem with the 360's design is they just tried to cram too much into a really small case. The CPU heatsink is great, large size, copper is a great heat conductor, heat pipes carry heat away from the CPU, lots of fan area. The GPU heatsink is under the DVD drive and offset from the fans slightly. Also it is made of aluminum and has no heat pipes and is much shorter (the old design.) This is adequate in ideal conditons, but many people do not ventilate their systems well or use them in a cool environment. I think this may also be causing some of the DVD drive problems as the heat is transferred to the DVD drive case. Standing the unit up partially blocks critical intake passages.
MS is taking care of this problem the best they can. They are not intentionally screwing people over, this is a design oversight and it is costing them more than anyone else.
I'm not concerned about my system because I added the XCM fan upgrade and switched to Arctic Silver heatsink paste. My 360 has been proven reliable and will last forever. Even if the PS3 is so far reliable out of the box, if there's no games and just a blu ray trojan horse it's a rip off in my book!
MS will eventually get all of these problems resolved in new systems, since the cause is basically the same problem.
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-06-27 |
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» You know...
Even then I have a hard time beleiving all this crap. It's obvious there are alot of failures but I think people thinking it will DEFINATELY happen to them is BS.
The reason I say this is I have a launch 360, that according to MS was built in the "Defect" launch window. I played it 10+ hrs a day last summer in 30-40C (90-100F) degree weather, with no air conditioning...no probs.....played it hardcore through the fall,winter and now back into summer, where I am now in a 3rd story apt (was in a 1st story last summer) and have played it about 30-35 C weather as it hasn't gotten to the peak of heat yet....no probs....however, my original Xbox has been overheating in the weather just streaming divx movies.
Surely if it was a fatal flaw, inherent in the design of the case and the lack of heatsinks then mine should have failed by now, but it hasn't.......
I really do think that for the most part the systems are fine, but they are just random defects and people are blowing these cases out of proportion in spite of MS and their machine, as there is really absolutely nothing else to complain about so they have to find something to make it seem lesser then the PS3.....
Oh and out of now 10 people I know with 360s....and about 50 on my friends list.....none had problems, so going by what I KNOW i've experienced, it's solid.....take everything on the net with a case of salt...
Even then I have a hard time beleiving all this crap. It's obvious there are alot of failures but I think people thinking it will DEFINATELY happen to them is BS.
The reason I say this is I have a launch 360, that according to MS was built in the "Defect" launch window. I played it 10+ hrs a day last summer in 30-40C (90-100F) degree weather, with no air conditioning...no probs.....played it hardcore through the fall,winter and now back into summer, where I am now in a 3rd story apt (was in a 1st story last summer) and have played it about 30-35 C weather as it hasn't gotten to the peak of heat yet....no probs....however, my original Xbox has been overheating in the weather just streaming divx movies.
Surely if it was a fatal flaw, inherent in the design of the case and the lack of heatsinks then mine should have failed by now, but it hasn't.......
I really do think that for the most part the systems are fine, but they are just random defects and people are blowing these cases out of proportion in spite of MS and their machine, as there is really absolutely nothing else to complain about so they have to find something to make it seem lesser then the PS3.....
Oh and out of now 10 people I know with 360s....and about 50 on my friends list.....none had problems, so going by what I KNOW i've experienced, it's solid.....take everything on the net with a case of salt...
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by Charles Schultz (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» Don't worry Charlie Brown...I promise this time will be different.
Lucy:
Hey Charlie Brown...I have a football, I will hold it and you run up and kick it.
Charlie Brown:
Lucy, every time I run up to kick the ball you pull it up at the last second and I kick at nothing and fall on my ass. I will NOT fall for it again.
Lucy:
Awe, c'mon Charlie Brown....I PROMISE I won't do that this time....look, here it is...see? I will hold the ball and you kick it really hard ok?
Charlie Brown:
Ok Lucy, I will trust you ONE more time....I will run up and kick the ball and it will go farther than anyone else has ever seen.
Lucy:
That's more like it Charlie Brown...I cant wait to see you kick the ball really far.
Charlie Brown backs up....takes a deep breath, and starts running as fast as he can toward the ball. As he gets closer to the ball Lucy is still holding it there for him.
Charlie Brown thinks to himself...."she really is going to let me kick it this time."
Charlie Brown winds up his foot, the football is still there, he starts his foot going foward and at the last possible moment Lucy pulls the ball out from his foots path and Charlie Brown swings and misses and falls flat on his back. Lucy gets up points at Charlie Brown and while letting out a HUGE laugh she says..
"Gods Charlie Brown....I cannot beleive you fell for that trick again."
Lucy finally stops laughing and goes over to Charlie Brown and tells him that this time she will NOT move the ball........
You know what happens next, don't you?
Why, why Charlie Brown do you keep trying to kick the ball when you know that Lucy will just pull the ball up at the last moment?
Why RROD60 fanboys do you continue to put up with this *****?
WHY?
Lucy:
Hey Charlie Brown...I have a football, I will hold it and you run up and kick it.
Charlie Brown:
Lucy, every time I run up to kick the ball you pull it up at the last second and I kick at nothing and fall on my ass. I will NOT fall for it again.
Lucy:
Awe, c'mon Charlie Brown....I PROMISE I won't do that this time....look, here it is...see? I will hold the ball and you kick it really hard ok?
Charlie Brown:
Ok Lucy, I will trust you ONE more time....I will run up and kick the ball and it will go farther than anyone else has ever seen.
Lucy:
That's more like it Charlie Brown...I cant wait to see you kick the ball really far.
Charlie Brown backs up....takes a deep breath, and starts running as fast as he can toward the ball. As he gets closer to the ball Lucy is still holding it there for him.
Charlie Brown thinks to himself...."she really is going to let me kick it this time."
Charlie Brown winds up his foot, the football is still there, he starts his foot going foward and at the last possible moment Lucy pulls the ball out from his foots path and Charlie Brown swings and misses and falls flat on his back. Lucy gets up points at Charlie Brown and while letting out a HUGE laugh she says..
"Gods Charlie Brown....I cannot beleive you fell for that trick again."
Lucy finally stops laughing and goes over to Charlie Brown and tells him that this time she will NOT move the ball........
You know what happens next, don't you?
Why, why Charlie Brown do you keep trying to kick the ball when you know that Lucy will just pull the ball up at the last moment?
Why RROD60 fanboys do you continue to put up with this *****?
WHY?
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Re: AoxomamoxoA - 2007-06-27 |
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» Uhh...
Since when did we go back to 2nd grade?
Since when did we go back to 2nd grade?
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by tomek14 - 2007-06-26 |
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» are u guys obliviouse????
THE 360 CAME OUT A YEAR BEFORE THE PS3 DID OR MORE. WAIT TILL PS3 RUNS INTO PROBLEMS. THAN WE'LL SEE WHOS TALKING CRAP. PS3 HASNT HAD A CHANCE TO *****K UP YET SO JUST GIVE IT A REST. YES MICROSOFT MADE A MISTAKE. BUY A COOLING STATION AND YOU SHOULD BE FINE.
THE 360 CAME OUT A YEAR BEFORE THE PS3 DID OR MORE. WAIT TILL PS3 RUNS INTO PROBLEMS. THAN WE'LL SEE WHOS TALKING CRAP. PS3 HASNT HAD A CHANCE TO *****K UP YET SO JUST GIVE IT A REST. YES MICROSOFT MADE A MISTAKE. BUY A COOLING STATION AND YOU SHOULD BE FINE.
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Re: RETARD (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» tomek14 is gay
yeah spend more money, ppl are mad because ps3 is more $, but thnk about it, hd dvd ,wireless, online, "cooling station", charging kit wtff lol your all dumb
yeah spend more money, ppl are mad because ps3 is more $, but thnk about it, hd dvd ,wireless, online, "cooling station", charging kit wtff lol your all dumb
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Re: tomek14 - 2007-06-27 |
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» UR GAY
who needs the hd dvd anyways dumbass like i bought the 360 to watch movies on it. the only manditory thing to buy is a memory unit. atleast with xbox u have a choice of what to buy. ps3 just comes with everything wether u want it or not and if u dont want it to bad u still have to pay for it. and wtf u doing posting in the 360 forums if ur such ps3 fans.
who needs the hd dvd anyways dumbass like i bought the 360 to watch movies on it. the only manditory thing to buy is a memory unit. atleast with xbox u have a choice of what to buy. ps3 just comes with everything wether u want it or not and if u dont want it to bad u still have to pay for it. and wtf u doing posting in the 360 forums if ur such ps3 fans.
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Re: hilo (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» um
screw hddvd...how much was your hdmi cable?
wireless is slower than wired...
xbox live is worth at least $50/year...hav u used it?
cooling stations are only $20...
ps3s need a charging kit too...
screw hddvd...how much was your hdmi cable?
wireless is slower than wired...
xbox live is worth at least $50/year...hav u used it?
cooling stations are only $20...
ps3s need a charging kit too...
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by TheOne9889 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-26 |
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» i saw this coming
i saw this all coming becasue back when it came out, there was only one reason why they would have put out a cooling unit like they did. sure ps3 has one too but thats only to make it less obvious even wii has one. this is the first game console generation where external cooling units were needed to keep them running properly. and thats just 1 out of 3 that actually needs it. yes i have own a 360 it was fun but wasnt fun enough for me to keep, i only got it to pass the time until ps3. i now have ps3 and i love it because i save my ps2 and 1 games for this very reason.
i saw this all coming becasue back when it came out, there was only one reason why they would have put out a cooling unit like they did. sure ps3 has one too but thats only to make it less obvious even wii has one. this is the first game console generation where external cooling units were needed to keep them running properly. and thats just 1 out of 3 that actually needs it. yes i have own a 360 it was fun but wasnt fun enough for me to keep, i only got it to pass the time until ps3. i now have ps3 and i love it because i save my ps2 and 1 games for this very reason.
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by DerDude (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» soo...
i really wonder if they count the repaired consoles also als "shipped" LOL
i really wonder if they count the repaired consoles also als "shipped" LOL
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-06-27 |
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» .
Only sony does that since they do not repair consoles. I had to buy another PS2 when mine had disc read error.
Only sony does that since they do not repair consoles. I had to buy another PS2 when mine had disc read error.
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by Psythik - 2007-06-27 |
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» heh...
I can't wait for a year after the PS3's release when all sorts of problems arise (SONY's famous for disc read errors). Then we'll see whose laughing.
Plus, if you can't afford a $20 fan then how could you afford a PS3?
BTW, my friend has had his 360 since launch and it's still going strong.
I can't wait for a year after the PS3's release when all sorts of problems arise (SONY's famous for disc read errors). Then we'll see whose laughing.
Plus, if you can't afford a $20 fan then how could you afford a PS3?
BTW, my friend has had his 360 since launch and it's still going strong.
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Re: tomek14 - 2007-06-27 |
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» yep
thank you atleast one person understands. WAIT ANOTHER YEAR FOR THE PS3TO ***** UP THAN WE"LL RUB IT IN UR FACE .
thank you atleast one person understands. WAIT ANOTHER YEAR FOR THE PS3TO ***** UP THAN WE"LL RUB IT IN UR FACE .
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Re: lol (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» you know...
commpare one person to all the people in the world or even compare 50-60... doesnt seem like much? you guys live in a small world
commpare one person to all the people in the world or even compare 50-60... doesnt seem like much? you guys live in a small world
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by bigdegs6 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» 360 aarrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhh
well mine has just gone back to "havant" for repair it decided to say open tray everytime i put a xbox disc in there and unrecognised disc for dvd films.
well mine has just gone back to "havant" for repair it decided to say open tray everytime i put a xbox disc in there and unrecognised disc for dvd films.
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by PmcG (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» ..
I have sent mine back on the 18th June for the 5th time since launch day in the UK. I've had nothing but trouble from microsoft trying to get it in for repair. Now I have to wait weeks to get it back?? This article only cements further how much a joke they are. For a multi billion $ company they *****ing suck ass.
I have sent mine back on the 18th June for the 5th time since launch day in the UK. I've had nothing but trouble from microsoft trying to get it in for repair. Now I have to wait weeks to get it back?? This article only cements further how much a joke they are. For a multi billion $ company they *****ing suck ass.
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by Ace High (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» !!!!!!
crap! I just sent my console in a week ago for the 3 red lights. I was hoping to get it back before I left for the summer in a week. now it looks like that won't happen. two weeks my a$$ microsoft. the least they could do is tell you the truth about how long it's gonna take. Other than this problem I'm very happy with my 360. (although it died after loading the menu for halo 2, weak!)
crap! I just sent my console in a week ago for the 3 red lights. I was hoping to get it back before I left for the summer in a week. now it looks like that won't happen. two weeks my a$$ microsoft. the least they could do is tell you the truth about how long it's gonna take. Other than this problem I'm very happy with my 360. (although it died after loading the menu for halo 2, weak!)
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by Justin (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» I own both consoles
And I have to say that while I play my Xbox more (I do enjoy Gears more than Resistance) the PS3 is definitely a better design.
To the guy that said the case is huge, put a PS3 next to a 360, they're around the same size, especially when you factor in the power pack.
If MS would just redesign the form factor for better airflow or quality components, it could be a far better scenario. But as it stands, I'm pretty sure my PS3 will outlast my 360 in quality.
And I have to say that while I play my Xbox more (I do enjoy Gears more than Resistance) the PS3 is definitely a better design.
To the guy that said the case is huge, put a PS3 next to a 360, they're around the same size, especially when you factor in the power pack.
If MS would just redesign the form factor for better airflow or quality components, it could be a far better scenario. But as it stands, I'm pretty sure my PS3 will outlast my 360 in quality.
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Re: intellegence (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» intellegence
I'm glad you have intellegence to post this.
I'm glad you have intellegence to post this.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-06-27 |
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» .
XBOX 360s get a lot more usage. Ya know, with games being available and all.
To people who say they leave their PS3s on all the time, that is minimal system usage. Only the CPU is being used to fold protien. The blu ray drive and GPU is not used at all. That isn't an accurate comparison when 360 owners are playing graphically intense games 99% of the time their systems are on.
XBOX 360s get a lot more usage. Ya know, with games being available and all.
To people who say they leave their PS3s on all the time, that is minimal system usage. Only the CPU is being used to fold protien. The blu ray drive and GPU is not used at all. That isn't an accurate comparison when 360 owners are playing graphically intense games 99% of the time their systems are on.
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by Last Gen and Handhelder (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» Laughing in all directions
You're all *****ing losers. Xboxers tote the superiority of 5 year old technology that cant even keep up with a minimum gaming workload. PS3ers are fools for paying double what they'll have to 1 year from now on an unproven piece of hardware...
Go update to Windows Vista and tell us all how amazing you are.
You're all *****ing losers. Xboxers tote the superiority of 5 year old technology that cant even keep up with a minimum gaming workload. PS3ers are fools for paying double what they'll have to 1 year from now on an unproven piece of hardware...
Go update to Windows Vista and tell us all how amazing you are.
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Re: tomek14 - 2007-06-27 |
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» ^^^^^
this dude is right 2
this dude is right 2
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by Me (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» repair my @ss
They claim their new policy is to do everything they can to fix YOUR xbox when you send it in, instead of always just sending a refurb so they meet their quick turnaround deadlines... but with so many consoles coming in (I dont doubt the numbers in this article), its got to be impossible to do anything but exactly that... throw yours in the pile and send you a refurb off the stack. The sad thing is they eventually send your brick back out to some other poor chap. (Im on my 4th, all refurbs)
They claim their new policy is to do everything they can to fix YOUR xbox when you send it in, instead of always just sending a refurb so they meet their quick turnaround deadlines... but with so many consoles coming in (I dont doubt the numbers in this article), its got to be impossible to do anything but exactly that... throw yours in the pile and send you a refurb off the stack. The sad thing is they eventually send your brick back out to some other poor chap. (Im on my 4th, all refurbs)
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by The Sage (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» What Games?
Proponents of the 360 are always saying, 360 has the best games and more of them. My questiong is...What games!?!
Let's see...There is Gears of War, and...Umm...Halo 3? Have you seen the trailers? It's hard to tell the difference between Halo 2 and 3.
Bioshock is not looking very impressive, as fo the most recent videos. Too Human has no launch date (still!), do to major frame rate issues. Blue Dragon?...Come on. Does anyone seriously think that it will stand up to Final Fantasy XIII? Forza?...It looks comparable to GTHD, wich is just a demo to hold us over until Grand Turismo 5 hits. What other outstanding exclusives are there?
I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just trying to understand.
Proponents of the 360 are always saying, 360 has the best games and more of them. My questiong is...What games!?!
Let's see...There is Gears of War, and...Umm...Halo 3? Have you seen the trailers? It's hard to tell the difference between Halo 2 and 3.
Bioshock is not looking very impressive, as fo the most recent videos. Too Human has no launch date (still!), do to major frame rate issues. Blue Dragon?...Come on. Does anyone seriously think that it will stand up to Final Fantasy XIII? Forza?...It looks comparable to GTHD, wich is just a demo to hold us over until Grand Turismo 5 hits. What other outstanding exclusives are there?
I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just trying to understand.
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Re: i dunno (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» What?
Are you kidding me?
Even when watching the Rooster Teeth video (if you have a 360 download it from the Marketplace) you can see a huge difference. And I mean HUGE. It is hard to see when you look at them days apart, when they use the Halo 2 engine in one scene and then use the Halo 3 engine immediately after it is freaking impressive!
I showed it to my girlfriend, because I thought she would get a kick out of the teabagging scene. Well, she said it took her a second or two to realize she was watching something that was computer generated. She thought that they were people standing in plastic suits talking.
If you haven't seen it, and therefore have no idea, which I would assume you didn't play the beta and so you have no idea, don't open your *****ing mouth!!!!
Are you kidding me?
Even when watching the Rooster Teeth video (if you have a 360 download it from the Marketplace) you can see a huge difference. And I mean HUGE. It is hard to see when you look at them days apart, when they use the Halo 2 engine in one scene and then use the Halo 3 engine immediately after it is freaking impressive!
I showed it to my girlfriend, because I thought she would get a kick out of the teabagging scene. Well, she said it took her a second or two to realize she was watching something that was computer generated. She thought that they were people standing in plastic suits talking.
If you haven't seen it, and therefore have no idea, which I would assume you didn't play the beta and so you have no idea, don't open your *****ing mouth!!!!
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by Ace High (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» ?
wow, that had nothing to do with the topic.
wow, that had nothing to do with the topic.
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Re: The Sage (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» You haven't read the post above you have you?
Many people are excusing the sub-par hardware by saying that there are better games on the 360. Makes no sence I know, but it is happening. Of course, they are attacking the PS3 at the same time.
Many people are excusing the sub-par hardware by saying that there are better games on the 360. Makes no sence I know, but it is happening. Of course, they are attacking the PS3 at the same time.
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by Kojiro (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» OMG
IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!
IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!
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by another ps3 fanboy made up article (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» another ps3 fanboy made up article
i own 3 systems and no problem at all. this articles are usually made up by ps3 fanboy who are frustrated they bought a system with no games and don't want to see the 360 succeed.
even sony is known to pull stunts like this. like when whey were caught with a fake movie review site that gave all the sony movies good review and every other movie a bad one.
i own 3 systems and no problem at all. this articles are usually made up by ps3 fanboy who are frustrated they bought a system with no games and don't want to see the 360 succeed.
even sony is known to pull stunts like this. like when whey were caught with a fake movie review site that gave all the sony movies good review and every other movie a bad one.
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Re: Beejbc (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» Just
because you dont have a problem with yours, doesn't mean everyone elses works properly. Think you god damn moron...think.
because you dont have a problem with yours, doesn't mean everyone elses works properly. Think you god damn moron...think.
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by maybe.. (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» just maybe..
this might be a brilliant scheme to get extra cash off u xbox owners who dont have a warranty...
this might be a brilliant scheme to get extra cash off u xbox owners who dont have a warranty...
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by Ichigo (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» Hahahah
What a bunch of looser i hae a 360 red light and i fix it Ha!!!!
i dont have to exhange like you *****s
What a bunch of looser i hae a 360 red light and i fix it Ha!!!!
i dont have to exhange like you *****s
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by wow (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» wow
when there's a problem with the xbox all these people start defending it like crazy from the sony fanboys..i never seen anything like this before.........
when there's a problem with the xbox all these people start defending it like crazy from the sony fanboys..i never seen anything like this before.........
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by i dunno (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» I call Bullsh*t
1500 to 2500 per day? Really?
Over ten days that is 15,000 to 25,000 consoles. Over 100 days, that will be 150,000 to 250,000. I can't imagine that many consoles coming in at once. How many people do they have working on those consoles? In order to repair and send them back in the required time, they would have to have about 200 or 300 repair people working on those machines. That would obviously be a HUGE cost to MS.
If the failure rate is that high, I would think there would be a class action lawsuit against MS. I think that the problems with faulty machines, when found and identified, are adjusted during the next manufacturing. Someone probably misheard and something completely different was said.
1500 to 2500 per day? Really?
Over ten days that is 15,000 to 25,000 consoles. Over 100 days, that will be 150,000 to 250,000. I can't imagine that many consoles coming in at once. How many people do they have working on those consoles? In order to repair and send them back in the required time, they would have to have about 200 or 300 repair people working on those machines. That would obviously be a HUGE cost to MS.
If the failure rate is that high, I would think there would be a class action lawsuit against MS. I think that the problems with faulty machines, when found and identified, are adjusted during the next manufacturing. Someone probably misheard and something completely different was said.
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by Agh! (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» Why is everyone at war?
Why does everyone have to feel that they have to defend their console? THESE ARE MACHINES. A 360 does not feel pain when someone says it is crap. Yes,I understand you don't want to feel that you have wasted your money on buying a console, but at the moment, does it look like any of them is going to bite the dust? I think not.
In addition, If you worried that whether or not Sony or Microsoft are going to lose the console "wars", it doesn't mean that there are going to no more consoles made by that company in the future. Microsoft will be able survive the loss and Sony is a giant in the Manufacturing Media Industry (Whatever you want to call it). And if one does lose and end up like Sega, they will still make/fund the games we love.
Now back to the point. IMO it is a shame that Microsoft's 360s are poorly designed. I have a friend whose 360 went bust within the first month using it. This is one of the reasons why I'm reserving myself from buying a next gen console. Each one has it's good and bad points. I am on the verge of getting a PS3 since i am a KILLZONE and Ratchet fan.
[Please don't call me a "F***ING RETARD" without reasoning, I'll be glad to hear any intelligent criticism :) ]
Why does everyone have to feel that they have to defend their console? THESE ARE MACHINES. A 360 does not feel pain when someone says it is crap. Yes,I understand you don't want to feel that you have wasted your money on buying a console, but at the moment, does it look like any of them is going to bite the dust? I think not.
In addition, If you worried that whether or not Sony or Microsoft are going to lose the console "wars", it doesn't mean that there are going to no more consoles made by that company in the future. Microsoft will be able survive the loss and Sony is a giant in the Manufacturing Media Industry (Whatever you want to call it). And if one does lose and end up like Sega, they will still make/fund the games we love.
Now back to the point. IMO it is a shame that Microsoft's 360s are poorly designed. I have a friend whose 360 went bust within the first month using it. This is one of the reasons why I'm reserving myself from buying a next gen console. Each one has it's good and bad points. I am on the verge of getting a PS3 since i am a KILLZONE and Ratchet fan.
[Please don't call me a "F***ING RETARD" without reasoning, I'll be glad to hear any intelligent criticism :) ]
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by xman (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» 360 sux
the 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360
the 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360 sucks 360
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Re: Agh! (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» Why?
Please explain what urged you to do that?
Please explain what urged you to do that?
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Re: KillerHurdz (Unregistered) - 2007-06-27 |
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» Fanboyism
He's using his major fanboyism to his advantage. If that makes any sense. You want to keep this up man? I'll take you on.
He's using his major fanboyism to his advantage. If that makes any sense. You want to keep this up man? I'll take you on.
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