Posted Mar 02, 2009 at 10:32AM by Isaac C.
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PlayStation 3 faithfuls look to Killzone 2 as the Xbox killer. And the game is indeed, truly awesome. Even Microsoft officially congratulated Sony and Guerrilla Games for their work. But, surprise, surprise, Microsoft says they have something up their sleeve, something even better than Killzone 2. Says an MS rep: We congratulate Sony and Guerrilla Games for their efforts with Killzone 2, however this is only the beginning of a new wave. The current technology employed for certain unannounced Xbox 360 exclusives far surpasses what gamers have seen in any game so far. Gears of War was the beginning of this technological benchmark when released on the 360 and this lineage will be carried forward in the following months with exclusives that shall stand for a new definition of gaming experience and provide stiff competition for the opposition. This is the first time I've ever seen a message of congratulations phrased as a b*tchslap. Can Microsoft really pull it off, or are they all talk? I'm curious to see how they'll do it, considering the limitations the Xbox 360 has against the PlayStation 3. We'll likely find out soon. Thanks to ackeejag for the tip! Related Articles:
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by papajag - 2009-03-02 |
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It's either another multi-DVD game or the game is going to be short with a lot of back tracking(DMC4, Dead Space). That's the only way 360 is going to beat the Killzone 2 graphics. KZ2 is only 60% or so they say of PS3s power. Uncharted 2 and GoW3 is what M$ needs to target.
It's either another multi-DVD game or the game is going to be short with a lot of back tracking(DMC4, Dead Space). That's the only way 360 is going to beat the Killzone 2 graphics. KZ2 is only 60% or so they say of PS3s power. Uncharted 2 and GoW3 is what M$ needs to target.
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Re: anhero - 2009-03-02 |
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» pathetic...
It is truly pathetic that the MS has to target Killzone 2. I mean, it's a good game and I bought it, but it isn't really great, and to be honest it felt like a combination of Gears of War and COD4 (including pros and cons). As of now I've played the campaign for almost 4 hours and the multiplayer for like 2 hours and I'm not really that impressed; though a good game it deserves, in my opinion, an 8.5/10. I still fail to see any REALLY good game in this curent gen consoles besides MGS4, and even that isn't that great.
If Microsoft is targeting a good yet not groudbreaking game then it's really pathetic, and I hope the answer isn't a new Halo game because with so many different developers it's not gonna be as good as Halo 2, or even Halo 3 as a matter of fact.
Recently I had hope for RE5 but after playing the demo I have been pretty disappointed at the new system. Maybe the new Zelda game that's gonna be announced at E3 will be groundbreaking. We shall wait and see, but from the looks of everything, games seem to be losing their quality as time goes by...
It is truly pathetic that the MS has to target Killzone 2. I mean, it's a good game and I bought it, but it isn't really great, and to be honest it felt like a combination of Gears of War and COD4 (including pros and cons). As of now I've played the campaign for almost 4 hours and the multiplayer for like 2 hours and I'm not really that impressed; though a good game it deserves, in my opinion, an 8.5/10. I still fail to see any REALLY good game in this curent gen consoles besides MGS4, and even that isn't that great.
If Microsoft is targeting a good yet not groudbreaking game then it's really pathetic, and I hope the answer isn't a new Halo game because with so many different developers it's not gonna be as good as Halo 2, or even Halo 3 as a matter of fact.
Recently I had hope for RE5 but after playing the demo I have been pretty disappointed at the new system. Maybe the new Zelda game that's gonna be announced at E3 will be groundbreaking. We shall wait and see, but from the looks of everything, games seem to be losing their quality as time goes by...
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Re: Kaneco - 2009-03-02 |
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» anhero
...I so Completely agree with you, games have lost their touch, and all these DLC cr@p is not going to help. I even heard that some DLC are included in disc but companies decide to actually charge you in order to unlock the damn thing. I think most DLCs are just a fad. I so long for the old days...Today's games just look like the RE4 over the shoulder camera type of games, and yes...RE4 was the one who started that ever since the Beta...not Gears of War like most people like to think... XD
...I so Completely agree with you, games have lost their touch, and all these DLC cr@p is not going to help. I even heard that some DLC are included in disc but companies decide to actually charge you in order to unlock the damn thing. I think most DLCs are just a fad. I so long for the old days...Today's games just look like the RE4 over the shoulder camera type of games, and yes...RE4 was the one who started that ever since the Beta...not Gears of War like most people like to think... XD
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Re: Allstaraugustine - 2009-03-02 |
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» @kaneco
faiiiil. splinter cell had it before RE4
faiiiil. splinter cell had it before RE4
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Re: papajag - 2009-03-02 |
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Here I thought I was the only one that thinks that this gen is lacking something. There is almost absolutely no originality. LBP was something that deserves credit and now Madworld. RE5 Demo was disappointing. KZ2 is good but not revolutionary, except the graphics (for a console game that's really good). Zelda I doubt anything will change.
Here I thought I was the only one that thinks that this gen is lacking something. There is almost absolutely no originality. LBP was something that deserves credit and now Madworld. RE5 Demo was disappointing. KZ2 is good but not revolutionary, except the graphics (for a console game that's really good). Zelda I doubt anything will change.
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Re: Kaneco - 2009-03-02 |
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» @Allstaraugustine
RE4 Beta has been around since 2001, and that concept down before Splinter Cell did...plus Splinter Cell never had any true OTS (Over the Shoulder) to it.
RE4 Beta has been around since 2001, and that concept down before Splinter Cell did...plus Splinter Cell never had any true OTS (Over the Shoulder) to it.
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Re: Shatterdome - 2009-03-02 |
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» Well...
Considering they quoted Gears 1 as being the "Begining" than it's obviously based off of unreal technology.....and since it's been un-annouced, it's probably just gears 3.....
I wish MS good luck.....since KZ2 looks better than gears 2 by far and is only supposedly using 60% of the resources. Not to mention the game doesn't require an install, alot more could have been done if they had chosen to go that route...
There is alot of post-processing going on in KZ2, and that is straight number crunching, which PS3 excels in.....so as much as i'd like to see something better come along, please announce it and show some concrete evidence and not just talk out your ass....
Considering they quoted Gears 1 as being the "Begining" than it's obviously based off of unreal technology.....and since it's been un-annouced, it's probably just gears 3.....
I wish MS good luck.....since KZ2 looks better than gears 2 by far and is only supposedly using 60% of the resources. Not to mention the game doesn't require an install, alot more could have been done if they had chosen to go that route...
There is alot of post-processing going on in KZ2, and that is straight number crunching, which PS3 excels in.....so as much as i'd like to see something better come along, please announce it and show some concrete evidence and not just talk out your ass....
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Re: PS34ME - 2009-03-03 |
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» wow Shatterdome
i'm surprised to see you of all people falling for the "% of resources" or "% of system power" cr@p spewed out by certain devs for hype purposes. :)
anyway, although killzone 2 looks fantastic (but not "far" better than gears 2 btw), it's the result of 4 years work and massive resources available to the developer, and therefore marks a good "line in the sand" for achievement at THIS moment for the current gen. however, *both* 360 and ps3 will have games which exceed anything we've seen in killzone 2, since that's the nature of game developement.
that's why i have to smile at that response from ms, because it's to be expected that the 360 has games in developement which exceed killzone 2 (maybe project offset is one? remember that anyone?). If it didn't, then there's something wrong. But the same is true for ps3 games in developement too.
Killzone 2 will not be the console graphics 'leader' for long.
i'm surprised to see you of all people falling for the "% of resources" or "% of system power" cr@p spewed out by certain devs for hype purposes. :)
anyway, although killzone 2 looks fantastic (but not "far" better than gears 2 btw), it's the result of 4 years work and massive resources available to the developer, and therefore marks a good "line in the sand" for achievement at THIS moment for the current gen. however, *both* 360 and ps3 will have games which exceed anything we've seen in killzone 2, since that's the nature of game developement.
that's why i have to smile at that response from ms, because it's to be expected that the 360 has games in developement which exceed killzone 2 (maybe project offset is one? remember that anyone?). If it didn't, then there's something wrong. But the same is true for ps3 games in developement too.
Killzone 2 will not be the console graphics 'leader' for long.
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Re: mr.x256 - 2009-03-07 |
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» Over the Shoulder
I think one of the Army Men games on PS1 had a camera view like this so did some other military game that I can't remember the name of.
I think one of the Army Men games on PS1 had a camera view like this so did some other military game that I can't remember the name of.
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Re: mr.x256 - 2009-03-07 |
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It might have been one of the "Spec Ops" games, Or Delta Force.
It might have been one of the "Spec Ops" games, Or Delta Force.
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Re: MikeyMike01 - 8 days ago |
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There are plenty of 3rd person shooters prior to RE4, but RE4 was the first to shift the character to the side with the crosshair in the middle of the screen.
There are plenty of 3rd person shooters prior to RE4, but RE4 was the first to shift the character to the side with the crosshair in the middle of the screen.
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by napsac41 - 2009-03-02 |
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» all talk.
your right. the only way they could do it is to somehow release a bigger disk to support better graphics and better longer games. its deffinatly not going to be a hardware add on cause x boxers arnt going to throw out more cash on their console. that just leaves software. but im sorry. if they are using gears 2 as there starting point they wont catch up. we're using KZ2 as our starting point. x box has a long way to go me thinks.
your right. the only way they could do it is to somehow release a bigger disk to support better graphics and better longer games. its deffinatly not going to be a hardware add on cause x boxers arnt going to throw out more cash on their console. that just leaves software. but im sorry. if they are using gears 2 as there starting point they wont catch up. we're using KZ2 as our starting point. x box has a long way to go me thinks.
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Re: phiyuku - 2009-03-02 |
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» Add ons for M$ actually works
Look at the ridiculously priced 60GB Hard Drive(Includes Headset and 3 months of Live) at 99.99 120GB at 139.99 and the wireless headset at 49.99 and plug and play kits for the controllers at 19.99 and they used to have HD-DVD before that died at 199.99. Obviously people are buying it or they would have lowered the price by now. I really want a bigger hard drive too for installing games but its obviously overpriced. The wired headsets are poorly made and they break pretty easily and the wireless one is suppose to be alright but its a waste of money when all I can use it with is my xbox 360, unlike my ps3 which uses bluetooth atleast i can use that with my Cell Phone and my Computer which has built in bluetooth.
Look at the ridiculously priced 60GB Hard Drive(Includes Headset and 3 months of Live) at 99.99 120GB at 139.99 and the wireless headset at 49.99 and plug and play kits for the controllers at 19.99 and they used to have HD-DVD before that died at 199.99. Obviously people are buying it or they would have lowered the price by now. I really want a bigger hard drive too for installing games but its obviously overpriced. The wired headsets are poorly made and they break pretty easily and the wireless one is suppose to be alright but its a waste of money when all I can use it with is my xbox 360, unlike my ps3 which uses bluetooth atleast i can use that with my Cell Phone and my Computer which has built in bluetooth.
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Re: papajag - 2009-03-02 |
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Yeah I bought the 60GB HDD because I needed it. I didn't want to get the 20GB because I want to install some games. The reason the add ons sell because people aren't really given much of a choice. It's a really great business idea. People think it's cheaper yet they pay the price of a full PS3 even more.
Yeah I bought the 60GB HDD because I needed it. I didn't want to get the 20GB because I want to install some games. The reason the add ons sell because people aren't really given much of a choice. It's a really great business idea. People think it's cheaper yet they pay the price of a full PS3 even more.
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Re: GUNBEHINDTHESUN - 2009-03-02 |
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» Add ons
I bought a 500 GB hard drive for my PS3 for less than $100 from newegg.com. Too bad Microsoft didn't allow for you to buy retail hard drives for the 360.
I bought a 500 GB hard drive for my PS3 for less than $100 from newegg.com. Too bad Microsoft didn't allow for you to buy retail hard drives for the 360.
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Re: damonous - 2009-03-02 |
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» Do add-ons really 'work'?
@phiyuku: It's always good when someone points that out. I absolutely agree: Microsoft's 'game' is to nickel-and-dime their customers to death. But, as to whether or not that *really* works ....I don't know. I remember years back when Sega had Genesis ...then Sega CD ...then 32X ...then 32X Sega CD ....... it seemed like, "Wow! There's so much cool things I can add-on to my system to make it do more!" But, at the end of the day, that's not how the majority of people really see it (especially those that are watching their pocketbook). Instead, they either see right through the money-scheme and DON'T BUY the console to begin with, ...or they buy it AND NEVER ACCESSORIZE. ;-) Let's face it: is the average consumer/gamer *really* going to spend $189 to upgrade their 60gb hard drive to 120gb on the 360? Are they even going to spend $100 and go through the trouble of upgrading the removable hard drive on the PS3? --Probably not either, although the latter is more likely. The same holds true for the $49.99 headset: it's a whole lot more likely that the average consumer/gamer will *try* their existing bluetooth headset, than to go out and spend $50 on a specific-use toy. In the long run, I have a feeling that the "screw you" add-ons that Microsoft is so found of only serve to juice their already institutionally-insane fanboys who've bought 3 or 4 consoles after RROD. That marketing strategy will become the albatross around the 360's neck when Sony starts to pull ahead in sales late this year.
@phiyuku: It's always good when someone points that out. I absolutely agree: Microsoft's 'game' is to nickel-and-dime their customers to death. But, as to whether or not that *really* works ....I don't know. I remember years back when Sega had Genesis ...then Sega CD ...then 32X ...then 32X Sega CD ....... it seemed like, "Wow! There's so much cool things I can add-on to my system to make it do more!" But, at the end of the day, that's not how the majority of people really see it (especially those that are watching their pocketbook). Instead, they either see right through the money-scheme and DON'T BUY the console to begin with, ...or they buy it AND NEVER ACCESSORIZE. ;-) Let's face it: is the average consumer/gamer *really* going to spend $189 to upgrade their 60gb hard drive to 120gb on the 360? Are they even going to spend $100 and go through the trouble of upgrading the removable hard drive on the PS3? --Probably not either, although the latter is more likely. The same holds true for the $49.99 headset: it's a whole lot more likely that the average consumer/gamer will *try* their existing bluetooth headset, than to go out and spend $50 on a specific-use toy. In the long run, I have a feeling that the "screw you" add-ons that Microsoft is so found of only serve to juice their already institutionally-insane fanboys who've bought 3 or 4 consoles after RROD. That marketing strategy will become the albatross around the 360's neck when Sony starts to pull ahead in sales late this year.
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Re: SKUD - 2009-03-03 |
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» For GUNBEHINDTHESUN
you can add a bigger HDD, but that requires some "sketchy".....I know what you mean though, we all know how M$ likes to play : DIRTY! To say the least. M$ basically built an empire onto which everyone bows to a certain extent (Lets face it if M$ has a killswitch built into their OS the world would end when triggered) I know for a fact every Military computer has W1ndow$ running on it! But the way I see it they've built an empire around themselves and at some point with lock themselves away from the rest of the world sooner or later.....
you can add a bigger HDD, but that requires some "sketchy".....I know what you mean though, we all know how M$ likes to play : DIRTY! To say the least. M$ basically built an empire onto which everyone bows to a certain extent (Lets face it if M$ has a killswitch built into their OS the world would end when triggered) I know for a fact every Military computer has W1ndow$ running on it! But the way I see it they've built an empire around themselves and at some point with lock themselves away from the rest of the world sooner or later.....
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by Azuman - 2009-03-02 |
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» Yea yea
M$ will always suck, Xbox owners are losers and will continue to be losers...
With Money and Bribing Game developers, Xbox will continue, without the money and the bribing they can't even do anything...
Only US gamers buy Xbox consoles, but out of US, the Xbox community are very poor and I am happy for that.
They claim that they have alot of exclusives, I say IT, alot of Exclusive CRAP!
/Sarcasm off
M$ will always suck, Xbox owners are losers and will continue to be losers...
With Money and Bribing Game developers, Xbox will continue, without the money and the bribing they can't even do anything...
Only US gamers buy Xbox consoles, but out of US, the Xbox community are very poor and I am happy for that.
They claim that they have alot of exclusives, I say IT, alot of Exclusive CRAP!
/Sarcasm off
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Re: sqrl175 - 2009-03-02 |
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» Yea yea?
only foreigners buy the ps3 because it matches with their fony entertainment center and fony bravia tv. dude, this is like coke and pepsi, one is always better than the other but you cant really say why, its just whatever you prefer. ms just complimented sony and you're here getting your panties in a knot bc you have too much pride in a company that doesnt even like you, they like your money. ms alike, to avoid a further argument. and in THE US, its not just US, the ps3 community is also very poor and im not happy for that. why should an online service suck, usage fee or not? mommy needs to reset the netnanny on ur computer so you can stop posting here, you should know better by now. and go ahead and talk more ***** about the us on a site thats based here, that'll really make us respect you.
only foreigners buy the ps3 because it matches with their fony entertainment center and fony bravia tv. dude, this is like coke and pepsi, one is always better than the other but you cant really say why, its just whatever you prefer. ms just complimented sony and you're here getting your panties in a knot bc you have too much pride in a company that doesnt even like you, they like your money. ms alike, to avoid a further argument. and in THE US, its not just US, the ps3 community is also very poor and im not happy for that. why should an online service suck, usage fee or not? mommy needs to reset the netnanny on ur computer so you can stop posting here, you should know better by now. and go ahead and talk more ***** about the us on a site thats based here, that'll really make us respect you.
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Re: Allstaraugustine - 2009-03-02 |
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» @sqrl175
uhhh. yea too bad the xbox community is filled with nothing but *****s that tell you your horrible and just swear the whole time and also 10 year olds.
uhhh. yea too bad the xbox community is filled with nothing but *****s that tell you your horrible and just swear the whole time and also 10 year olds.
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Re: Teflon02 - 2009-03-02 |
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» @ sqrl175
what r u 10 years old? first off sony's PS3 isnt whats braking down... im sure its 360... if sony didnt like they're consumers why are they selling ps3 at a price that makes em loose money? oh because they dont like me...right?..nope its cuz they do thats also y theyre online is free nd live isnt. nd how r u tryina compare ps3 nd 360 to coke nd pepsi(p.s. coke is better its not as sweet nd doesnt have a bad after taste like pepsi) there is a reason ps3 it better.. alot of reasons actually 1 it doesnt brake down nd keep doin it every year. 2 free internet. 3 internet browser... if u want more. 4 PS home... its not a game like ppl think its jus an online community. 5 Life with playstation. 6 being able 2 use any usb mic or any bluetooth mic. more? 8 ability to have any amount of memory u buy... cheap to buy 500gb for under $100. 9 playstation exclusive DLC are %95 of the time. 10 ps3 games hold way more... 50gb of game nd soon 100. 11 ps3 doubles as a blu-ray player... and was proven to be the best blu-ray plyr
what r u 10 years old? first off sony's PS3 isnt whats braking down... im sure its 360... if sony didnt like they're consumers why are they selling ps3 at a price that makes em loose money? oh because they dont like me...right?..nope its cuz they do thats also y theyre online is free nd live isnt. nd how r u tryina compare ps3 nd 360 to coke nd pepsi(p.s. coke is better its not as sweet nd doesnt have a bad after taste like pepsi) there is a reason ps3 it better.. alot of reasons actually 1 it doesnt brake down nd keep doin it every year. 2 free internet. 3 internet browser... if u want more. 4 PS home... its not a game like ppl think its jus an online community. 5 Life with playstation. 6 being able 2 use any usb mic or any bluetooth mic. more? 8 ability to have any amount of memory u buy... cheap to buy 500gb for under $100. 9 playstation exclusive DLC are %95 of the time. 10 ps3 games hold way more... 50gb of game nd soon 100. 11 ps3 doubles as a blu-ray player... and was proven to be the best blu-ray plyr
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Re: Shabbypenguin - 2009-03-02 |
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» Holy crap Teflon..
I got like 3 lines into your post and realized i was becoming dumber, everyone loves to slam the 360 for its failure rates but apparently dont like to look up sonys infamous disc read error with ps2, or how many broken ps3's you can get on ebay..
i own both systems and i have to say i play my ps3 a lot more, not because i prefer it but a bunch of my buddies have ps3 so when a game comes out i get it for ps3 so we can play together. im sure my faithful xbox of 3 years is a little jealous but oh well, people forget that its a company they are there to make money.. as for selling consoles while they lose money its because if they charged exactly what it cost to make it back when it first came out no one would own it.
amazing how xbox owners are the 10 year olds but the first trash words slung in this topic are towards it.. i think im going to stop even bothering with this and try to start a flame war between Dell and toshiba about their laptops since clearly one is so much better then the other...
they are both computers programed to run certain code.. thats all i dont see anyone picking fights over which microwave works better..
I got like 3 lines into your post and realized i was becoming dumber, everyone loves to slam the 360 for its failure rates but apparently dont like to look up sonys infamous disc read error with ps2, or how many broken ps3's you can get on ebay..
i own both systems and i have to say i play my ps3 a lot more, not because i prefer it but a bunch of my buddies have ps3 so when a game comes out i get it for ps3 so we can play together. im sure my faithful xbox of 3 years is a little jealous but oh well, people forget that its a company they are there to make money.. as for selling consoles while they lose money its because if they charged exactly what it cost to make it back when it first came out no one would own it.
amazing how xbox owners are the 10 year olds but the first trash words slung in this topic are towards it.. i think im going to stop even bothering with this and try to start a flame war between Dell and toshiba about their laptops since clearly one is so much better then the other...
they are both computers programed to run certain code.. thats all i dont see anyone picking fights over which microwave works better..
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Re: Binary - 2009-03-02 |
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Dell laptops are awesome!
toshiba sucks
Dell laptops are awesome!
toshiba sucks
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Re: avatar76 - 2009-03-02 |
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» Umm didn't anyone notice the /Sarcasm
Last line, he was being sarcastic for that entire post.
Last line, he was being sarcastic for that entire post.
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Re: fearlubu - 2009-03-03 |
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» @ sqrl
Ill eat yo children!!!
M$ sucks doo u crazy
Ill eat yo children!!!
M$ sucks doo u crazy
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by HDRasta - 2009-03-02 |
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» haha crapbox
haha of course M$ would say that... and GOW sucked 1 & 2 and theres no way M$ can keep up with the display that the PS3 outputs and M$ games r just a copy and paste from other games they have put out. i have heard no good games coming out for 360 this year and 5 epic titles coming out this year on PS3 including Killzone2, infomous, unchartered2, etc. common M$ stop kidding urself. and the only reason ur winning the console war is ur system its crackable and the RRoD made ppl buy the console again. One guy I know for some reason is on his 11th 360 cuz of RRoD. waste of time and money I think .
haha of course M$ would say that... and GOW sucked 1 & 2 and theres no way M$ can keep up with the display that the PS3 outputs and M$ games r just a copy and paste from other games they have put out. i have heard no good games coming out for 360 this year and 5 epic titles coming out this year on PS3 including Killzone2, infomous, unchartered2, etc. common M$ stop kidding urself. and the only reason ur winning the console war is ur system its crackable and the RRoD made ppl buy the console again. One guy I know for some reason is on his 11th 360 cuz of RRoD. waste of time and money I think .
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Re: dragonracer900 - 2009-03-02 |
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» what
wouldn't you think that the guy you know would stop buying an xbox after an 11th one.
That money would have been used towards a computer that is better in quality as well as graphics capability than an xbox.
wouldn't you think that the guy you know would stop buying an xbox after an 11th one.
That money would have been used towards a computer that is better in quality as well as graphics capability than an xbox.
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Re: papajag - 2009-03-02 |
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» ^...
I know. People are stupid like that. If it wasn't for mods I would have dumped the 360 the moment I got my 2nd RRoD.
I know. People are stupid like that. If it wasn't for mods I would have dumped the 360 the moment I got my 2nd RRoD.
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Re: saldude2 - 2009-03-07 |
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» LOL
your friend must be as dumb and stuid as you
your friend must be as dumb and stuid as you
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by napsac41 - 2009-03-02 |
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» :[
well im american and not once have i ever wanted an x box. and as far as i can see the ps3 is catching on quick over here. but thanks for steriotyping me.
well im american and not once have i ever wanted an x box. and as far as i can see the ps3 is catching on quick over here. but thanks for steriotyping me.
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by NathanDrake - 2009-03-02 |
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» sigh...
Is every PS3 owner supposed to like Killzone 2?
Is every PS3 owner supposed to like Killzone 2?
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Re: khaijiao - 2009-03-02 |
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» Right?
Personally I'm sticking with COD5. Anyway I don't understand why Microsoft is on the offensive about graphical capability. Good graphics doesn't necessarily mean good game.
Personally I'm sticking with COD5. Anyway I don't understand why Microsoft is on the offensive about graphical capability. Good graphics doesn't necessarily mean good game.
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Re: Allstaraugustine - 2009-03-02 |
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» @khaijiao
uhhhh...dude, COD5 is a copy and paste of COD4...stop following the crowd and find a game you actually like. Killzone is the best multiplayer game ive played since COD4.
uhhhh...dude, COD5 is a copy and paste of COD4...stop following the crowd and find a game you actually like. Killzone is the best multiplayer game ive played since COD4.
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Re: khaijiao - 2009-03-02 |
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» @allstaraugustine
Never played COD4, but I don't need to because I'm more interested in WWII style military fps anyway, that's just me though. So I don't think it matters that it's copy and paste if it's a good engine and a fun game. Anyway if "following the crowd" means playing the newest games then speak for yourself. Also if KZ2 is the best multiplayer game you've played since COD4, and COD5 is a direct copy and paste of that then I must be playing a pretty good game right?
Never played COD4, but I don't need to because I'm more interested in WWII style military fps anyway, that's just me though. So I don't think it matters that it's copy and paste if it's a good engine and a fun game. Anyway if "following the crowd" means playing the newest games then speak for yourself. Also if KZ2 is the best multiplayer game you've played since COD4, and COD5 is a direct copy and paste of that then I must be playing a pretty good game right?
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Re: TPot - 2009-03-02 |
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» No.
I was going to get it, but then tried the demo. Talked me out of it - the game just didn't do anything for me. Admittedly I am not a huge FPS fan, but I have been known to dabble before.
I was going to get it, but then tried the demo. Talked me out of it - the game just didn't do anything for me. Admittedly I am not a huge FPS fan, but I have been known to dabble before.
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Re: Allstaraugustine - 2009-03-02 |
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» @khaijiao
tuche.tuche.
tuche.tuche.
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Re: xophaser - 2009-03-02 |
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» no
I don't buy any fps regardless of systems. I get dizzy from them. I still wished RE was the same old RE1 3rd person.
I don't buy any fps regardless of systems. I get dizzy from them. I still wished RE was the same old RE1 3rd person.
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Re: xche78x - 2009-03-04 |
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» agreed to xophaser
yes FPS looks good
runs great etc but
i grew up with half life counter strike on PC,
i can play but never enjoy fps on consoles if i cant have mouse and keyboard.
for me resident evil 4 and 5 are not that great when it comes to control and camera positioning, they make me dizzy after 30 minutes or so.
uncharted, mgs4 and all those action adventure games are great, and gta4 is still my best 7th gen game.
and when it comes to fps for me, counter strike and cod4 still beats gears of war 1 2, halo 1 2 3, resistance 1 2.
and i dont like killzone 2.
im currently considering uncharted 2 as my primary game purchase for 2009.
yes FPS looks good
runs great etc but
i grew up with half life counter strike on PC,
i can play but never enjoy fps on consoles if i cant have mouse and keyboard.
for me resident evil 4 and 5 are not that great when it comes to control and camera positioning, they make me dizzy after 30 minutes or so.
uncharted, mgs4 and all those action adventure games are great, and gta4 is still my best 7th gen game.
and when it comes to fps for me, counter strike and cod4 still beats gears of war 1 2, halo 1 2 3, resistance 1 2.
and i dont like killzone 2.
im currently considering uncharted 2 as my primary game purchase for 2009.
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by Silver-Tiger - 2009-03-02 |
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» ....
HAHAHAHA!!!!
Never laughed that much....
Microsofts comments are getting more pathetic with every day...
And what should that be? Halo: ODST? An
expansion?
Alan Wake, the game we haven't heard of for years?
Or some other bought exclusive DLC?
Even as a Xbox 360 fanboy you have to admit that this year is pathetic for the console....
But then again, they also survived the last year, with just two big games released, Fable 2 and Gears 2. I have to admit these games were good...
BTW: I'm no PS3 fanboy, in fact I do own a Xbox 360 and I enjoy it, it's just the marketing and the huge arrogance of Microsoft I hate so much.
HAHAHAHA!!!!
Never laughed that much....
Microsofts comments are getting more pathetic with every day...
And what should that be? Halo: ODST? An
expansion?
Alan Wake, the game we haven't heard of for years?
Or some other bought exclusive DLC?
Even as a Xbox 360 fanboy you have to admit that this year is pathetic for the console....
But then again, they also survived the last year, with just two big games released, Fable 2 and Gears 2. I have to admit these games were good...
BTW: I'm no PS3 fanboy, in fact I do own a Xbox 360 and I enjoy it, it's just the marketing and the huge arrogance of Microsoft I hate so much.
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Re: Azuman - 2009-03-02 |
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» .....
you have to leave M$ Xbox and become PS3 owner, by then you won't be a loser... SAVE YOUR SELF!!!!!!!!
you have to leave M$ Xbox and become PS3 owner, by then you won't be a loser... SAVE YOUR SELF!!!!!!!!
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Re: saldude2 - 2009-03-07 |
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» STFU
umm... they said UN-ANNOUNCED TITLES
umm... they said UN-ANNOUNCED TITLES
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by Yamagushi - 2009-03-02 |
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» LMAO
Look at all the PS3 Fanboys getting scared and getting WAY over defensive. If you ask me thats the only thing funny here.
Look at all the PS3 Fanboys getting scared and getting WAY over defensive. If you ask me thats the only thing funny here.
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Re: thefinalhero - 2009-03-02 |
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» Not scared.
Microsoft's statement is just too ridiculous to take seriously.
Microsoft's statement is just too ridiculous to take seriously.
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Re: Allstaraugustine - 2009-03-02 |
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» lol.
your dumb yamagushi.
your dumb yamagushi.
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Re: Gamester101 - 2009-03-02 |
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» Yamagushi
I hope they don't ban you. You're the most comical 360 fanboy on QJ lol...
I hope they don't ban you. You're the most comical 360 fanboy on QJ lol...
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Re: Azuman - 2009-03-02 |
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» @Yamagushi
You are Dumb for owning Xbox console, go beat your A$$.
You are Dumb for owning Xbox console, go beat your A$$.
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Re: HIDEO KOJIMA - 2009-03-02 |
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» @ Allstaraugustine
"your dumb yamagushi."
You say he's dumb for speaking the truth... I say you're dumb for not using "you're"
"your dumb yamagushi."
You say he's dumb for speaking the truth... I say you're dumb for not using "you're"
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Re: blkthunda - 2009-03-03 |
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» Hideo
Mr wannabe, does it matter what form of grammar he use. You can understand it and so many others can understand it. Does it make a difference if he uses your instead of you're. This isn't a classroom it's a forum. It's freewriting.
Mr wannabe, does it matter what form of grammar he use. You can understand it and so many others can understand it. Does it make a difference if he uses your instead of you're. This isn't a classroom it's a forum. It's freewriting.
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Re: HIDEO KOJIMA - 2009-03-04 |
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» @ blkthunda
I'm sorry.... I always forget that Sony Fanboys are still in preschool and that they don't understand the importance of having an education. I guess they'll never learn that when you attack someone, don't make yourself look stupid.
I'm sorry.... I always forget that Sony Fanboys are still in preschool and that they don't understand the importance of having an education. I guess they'll never learn that when you attack someone, don't make yourself look stupid.
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Re: saldude2 - 2009-03-07 |
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» s
@ PS3 fanboys
If you love your console that much why dont you go and have S*x with your ps3 rather than coming here.
@ PS3 fanboys
If you love your console that much why dont you go and have S*x with your ps3 rather than coming here.
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by thefinalhero - 2009-03-02 |
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» Yeah Okay...
I've only had Killzone 2 since last Friday and it's blown pretty much every other shooter on consoles gameplay wise out of the water. I'm 99% sure that there is no way Microsoft will be able to pull this off. Closer to 99.9% Killzone took everything past shooters have done and refined it to the point where it feels new and interesting again. Between this and Metal Gear Online to fulfill my TPS cravings. I don't think I'm going to need any more shooters this generation.
I've only had Killzone 2 since last Friday and it's blown pretty much every other shooter on consoles gameplay wise out of the water. I'm 99% sure that there is no way Microsoft will be able to pull this off. Closer to 99.9% Killzone took everything past shooters have done and refined it to the point where it feels new and interesting again. Between this and Metal Gear Online to fulfill my TPS cravings. I don't think I'm going to need any more shooters this generation.
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Re: HDRasta - 2009-03-03 |
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» Killzoned
yea having it since friday I haven't looked at any other game to play.
by far the best FPS and multi online is to good to beat. ha M$ you have a long way to go.
yea having it since friday I haven't looked at any other game to play.
by far the best FPS and multi online is to good to beat. ha M$ you have a long way to go.
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by Genotype - 2009-03-02 |
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» Sony
Definitely has some kick-ass game, if they work on the unit price they would dominate. COMMON FRICKEN SONY! With that in mind I honestly believe the X-Box is already reaching it's full potential, they really need to start focusing on revolutionizing there gameplay (Halo 3 and GoW2 didn't help there) cause they cant win in the graphics department.
Definitely has some kick-ass game, if they work on the unit price they would dominate. COMMON FRICKEN SONY! With that in mind I honestly believe the X-Box is already reaching it's full potential, they really need to start focusing on revolutionizing there gameplay (Halo 3 and GoW2 didn't help there) cause they cant win in the graphics department.
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by mjmaskrey - 2009-03-02 |
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» .
Is the praise Killzone is getting really justified?
I played the demo and thought it was pretty standard tbh...and the dodgy controls absolutely killed any enjoyment for me...feels like there's input lag even when the sensitivity is cranked right up.
Is the praise Killzone is getting really justified?
I played the demo and thought it was pretty standard tbh...and the dodgy controls absolutely killed any enjoyment for me...feels like there's input lag even when the sensitivity is cranked right up.
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Re: Eclipze_ - 2009-03-02 |
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» It is justified
From being in the beta, to playing the demo was a real huge downgrade. Now owning the full game however, they really improved on a lot of things including some of the complaints you brought up.
First off that was a bad map to choose to show off on a demo (its one of the few maps with a lack of color and exciting things going on). There WAS input lag when shooting and aiming but it seems to be fine now while I play it. All I do is put the control layout on alternate 2 and its perfect for me.
This game is pretty damn good in my opinion, so I'd try not to let the demo deceive you. If you don't want to buy it then at least rent it to see if its good or not.
From being in the beta, to playing the demo was a real huge downgrade. Now owning the full game however, they really improved on a lot of things including some of the complaints you brought up.
First off that was a bad map to choose to show off on a demo (its one of the few maps with a lack of color and exciting things going on). There WAS input lag when shooting and aiming but it seems to be fine now while I play it. All I do is put the control layout on alternate 2 and its perfect for me.
This game is pretty damn good in my opinion, so I'd try not to let the demo deceive you. If you don't want to buy it then at least rent it to see if its good or not.
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Re: TPot - 2009-03-02 |
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» Good comment Eclipze.
I to was put off by the demo. Nice to know there is a brighter side.
I to was put off by the demo. Nice to know there is a brighter side.
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Re: xche78x - 2009-03-04 |
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» devs devs devs
when will they ever learn.
demo's are supposed to make a person feel that the game is worthy of their money.
i have played almost every demo on psn andmost of the demos make me feel the game is not really worth purchasing.
samples--
resistance > made me wanna buy the game
resistance 2 beta > made me forget about the game
sonic all of em > make me wanna hate sega
ridge racer 7 > i own all but not 7 demo made me think its super hard game.
super star dust hd > made me buy the full game
yakuza 3 demo > made me cry coz the english game is still unannounced and or very far off.
when will they ever learn.
demo's are supposed to make a person feel that the game is worthy of their money.
i have played almost every demo on psn andmost of the demos make me feel the game is not really worth purchasing.
samples--
resistance > made me wanna buy the game
resistance 2 beta > made me forget about the game
sonic all of em > make me wanna hate sega
ridge racer 7 > i own all but not 7 demo made me think its super hard game.
super star dust hd > made me buy the full game
yakuza 3 demo > made me cry coz the english game is still unannounced and or very far off.
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by rollypoly - 2009-03-02 |
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» i'm so sick of this crap...
both sides are just as guilty of this kind of irrelevant immature smack talking...
i'd give sony credit for lightening up on the idiotic statements, but then i fear kaz will show his ass and prove me wrong...
put up or shut up... really...
both sides are just as guilty of this kind of irrelevant immature smack talking...
i'd give sony credit for lightening up on the idiotic statements, but then i fear kaz will show his ass and prove me wrong...
put up or shut up... really...
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Re: Gamester101 - 2009-03-02 |
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» CLEAR FANBOY!
/jk lol
/jk lol
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by Hekynn - 2009-03-02 |
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» MS=FAIL!!
MS is a total failure to the gaming market they should just shut down XBL and the 360 for good and give ALL THE STUDIOS back to Sony including SE those greedy bastards.
MS is a total failure to the gaming market they should just shut down XBL and the 360 for good and give ALL THE STUDIOS back to Sony including SE those greedy bastards.
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Re: avatar76 - 2009-03-02 |
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» WAAAAHHHH
^ That's you.
PS3fanboy+FAIL
^ That's you.
PS3fanboy+FAIL
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Re: Azuman - 2009-03-02 |
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» @Avatar76
Fortunately, you are a retard.
Fortunately, you are a retard.
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Re: avatar76 - 2009-03-02 |
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» Fortunately?
Why because that's the only thing PS3 fanboy's are better then?
Why because that's the only thing PS3 fanboy's are better then?
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by IXinchnail - 2009-03-02 |
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» ...
M$ has something better than KZ2 on the way? Big F'in deal. Infinity Ward had something better than KZ2 1.5 years ago called Modern Warfare. KZ2 looks pretty, but try playing it. Good luck getting your character to do what you want. GG says their controls are 'tactical,' pfft!
M$ has something better than KZ2 on the way? Big F'in deal. Infinity Ward had something better than KZ2 1.5 years ago called Modern Warfare. KZ2 looks pretty, but try playing it. Good luck getting your character to do what you want. GG says their controls are 'tactical,' pfft!
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Re: thefinalhero - 2009-03-02 |
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» ?
I don't know what you're talking about. The controls are fine. The only problem I've had with the game is that the AI is TOO smart at some points. I admit Modern Warfare was indeed amazing, but to me it failed to give the impression of a "War" especially in Multiplayer. If you want something that feels like War play a 32 person Body Count Match on Corinth Crossing. I've never had an experience before where it felt like there was fire coming from all over the place to the point where I was afraid to move.
I don't know what you're talking about. The controls are fine. The only problem I've had with the game is that the AI is TOO smart at some points. I admit Modern Warfare was indeed amazing, but to me it failed to give the impression of a "War" especially in Multiplayer. If you want something that feels like War play a 32 person Body Count Match on Corinth Crossing. I've never had an experience before where it felt like there was fire coming from all over the place to the point where I was afraid to move.
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Re: khaijiao - 2009-03-02 |
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» Agreed
Rainbow Six Vegas games are supposed to be "tactical" and have better controls than KZ2.
Rainbow Six Vegas games are supposed to be "tactical" and have better controls than KZ2.
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Re: Allstaraugustine - 2009-03-02 |
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» @thefinalhero
i totally agree. it ACTUALLY feels like im in a warzone the whole 30 min rounds. and the controls are just really realistic, unlike COD where you can throw a grenade across the map untill someone dies.
i totally agree. it ACTUALLY feels like im in a warzone the whole 30 min rounds. and the controls are just really realistic, unlike COD where you can throw a grenade across the map untill someone dies.
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by NarooN - 2009-03-02 |
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» I hate to sound like a fanboy but
What will it be? Halo 4? The next Gears? It'll only surprise me if it's an original IP, and even then it's probably gonna be like multi-DVD like that one RPG game was (and that RPG still sucked.)
What will it be? Halo 4? The next Gears? It'll only surprise me if it's an original IP, and even then it's probably gonna be like multi-DVD like that one RPG game was (and that RPG still sucked.)
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Re: avatar76 - 2009-03-02 |
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» I don't normally agree with anything you post NarooN
I think you're a grade A+++ PS3fanboy who pretends to know about technical stuff when he doesn't.
All that said I agree with you though that it's probably another crappy RPG, and I've hated every single RPG game they've bought out on the 360. Halo Wars was not the game to release up against KZ2, everyone knows RTS is much more marginalised then FPS (even if it is brilliant).
Next Gears I wouldn't expect until 2010-2011, that Halo3 ODST expansion they might be talking about, but geez I'm not expecting anything revolutionary from that.
I mean it's the Halo3 engine FFS that's not revolutionary that's old now (it is a great game engine but it's not new).
So I'd doubt it's Halo4 because that'd be putting the cart before the horse, you don't release new tech when you've got something coming out using the predecessor's tech.
I think you're a grade A+++ PS3fanboy who pretends to know about technical stuff when he doesn't.
All that said I agree with you though that it's probably another crappy RPG, and I've hated every single RPG game they've bought out on the 360. Halo Wars was not the game to release up against KZ2, everyone knows RTS is much more marginalised then FPS (even if it is brilliant).
Next Gears I wouldn't expect until 2010-2011, that Halo3 ODST expansion they might be talking about, but geez I'm not expecting anything revolutionary from that.
I mean it's the Halo3 engine FFS that's not revolutionary that's old now (it is a great game engine but it's not new).
So I'd doubt it's Halo4 because that'd be putting the cart before the horse, you don't release new tech when you've got something coming out using the predecessor's tech.
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Re: NarooN - 2009-03-02 |
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» .
You can *think* all that, but it's not true, whether you like it or not. I don't post about ***** I don't know about. Fact of the matter is, you don't know ***** about me, so calling me a fanboy is ridiculous.
But obviously I have a group of stalkers on here who agree with you and thumb down everything I post, and I've even had several people call me the "Resident Douchebag of QJ". Pretty amusing how I have a little cult or something.
You can *think* all that, but it's not true, whether you like it or not. I don't post about ***** I don't know about. Fact of the matter is, you don't know ***** about me, so calling me a fanboy is ridiculous.
But obviously I have a group of stalkers on here who agree with you and thumb down everything I post, and I've even had several people call me the "Resident Douchebag of QJ". Pretty amusing how I have a little cult or something.
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Re: avatar76 - 2009-03-03 |
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» Naroon
Actually dude I gave you a thumbs up on your post because it was not just the usual *****e you put on here. Did you read past the first line of my post I agreed with everything you said. Whatever man, you just displayed how immature you are. Peace man, peace. I'm sure a bunch of 360 fanboys thumbed me down too for agree with you, but whatever.
P.S no I'm not stalking you but I have noticed your stuff about how the PS3 has better Graphics capabilities more then one ocasion, which is incorrect by the way.
Actually dude I gave you a thumbs up on your post because it was not just the usual *****e you put on here. Did you read past the first line of my post I agreed with everything you said. Whatever man, you just displayed how immature you are. Peace man, peace. I'm sure a bunch of 360 fanboys thumbed me down too for agree with you, but whatever.
P.S no I'm not stalking you but I have noticed your stuff about how the PS3 has better Graphics capabilities more then one ocasion, which is incorrect by the way.
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by merkajoe - 2009-03-02 |
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» Okay...
So, M$ says they have something better than KZ2. Surely, that may be true. However, this is only going to continue as both Sony and M$ continue to exist in the gaming industry. One day it'll be Sony on top, the next day M$. I'm both a 360 and PS3 user, so I get to experience the best of both. Some of you fanboys should reconsider and try experiencing the other side.
So, M$ says they have something better than KZ2. Surely, that may be true. However, this is only going to continue as both Sony and M$ continue to exist in the gaming industry. One day it'll be Sony on top, the next day M$. I'm both a 360 and PS3 user, so I get to experience the best of both. Some of you fanboys should reconsider and try experiencing the other side.
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Re: Binary - 2009-03-02 |
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» amen.
I really need to found a ps3 to compare.
I really need to found a ps3 to compare.
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Re: avatar76 - 2009-03-02 |
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» @Binary
You are a PS3 fanboy what are you talking about.
You are a PS3 fanboy what are you talking about.
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Re: Gamester101 - 2009-03-03 |
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» Lol @ Avatar76
Do you just call everyone who has made a comment you dislike or disapprove of a PS3 Fanboy? Or are you just an Xbox fanboy lol?
Do you just call everyone who has made a comment you dislike or disapprove of a PS3 Fanboy? Or are you just an Xbox fanboy lol?
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Re: avatar76 - 2009-03-03 |
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» @gamester :)
LOL Not really, though that's not a bad observation. Just people who get on here and rant and rave about stuff they're wrong about. That's my usual definition of a fanboy, have a look at some of his posts on this article and you'll understand the one all blotted out with *'s below for example.
LOL Not really, though that's not a bad observation. Just people who get on here and rant and rave about stuff they're wrong about. That's my usual definition of a fanboy, have a look at some of his posts on this article and you'll understand the one all blotted out with *'s below for example.
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by Atownaction - 2009-03-02 |
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» Man dont count out Microsoft......
Hey I have a PS3 and well MS had there system out for a while before PS3 made there move I think that MS have the power and resources to get back to the top I think that they have something really good coming up in 2009 just watch!!!
Hey I have a PS3 and well MS had there system out for a while before PS3 made there move I think that MS have the power and resources to get back to the top I think that they have something really good coming up in 2009 just watch!!!
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Re: Binary - 2009-03-02 |
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» it could be
the spring update with prime time or something else.
the spring update with prime time or something else.
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Re: avatar76 - 2009-03-02 |
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» Spring update is not a game..
They seem to make a reference to the Gears of War game engine which is UnrealIII engine? I can't see that helping out with the spring update. Those smoke and particle effects on the PS3 are pretty exceptional, I haven't seen GOW2 do them quite that good. Don't get me wrong they're no slouch but KZ2 definitely has it over the 360 with them at the moment.
They seem to make a reference to the Gears of War game engine which is UnrealIII engine? I can't see that helping out with the spring update. Those smoke and particle effects on the PS3 are pretty exceptional, I haven't seen GOW2 do them quite that good. Don't get me wrong they're no slouch but KZ2 definitely has it over the 360 with them at the moment.
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by BigGulps - 2009-03-02 |
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» When Microsoft congratulates you...
You know you got something good going..
Microsoft's congratulatory statement to GG and Sony provides further evidence that Killzone 2 is indeed a huge success. We can all thank Sony and GG for setting a new standard for what a next generation game should look like. Hats off to Sony and GG for little to no problems with the FREE online servers also.
But back to Microsoft, they never congratulate their competition. Sure, they're quick to say they have something better, but that was a genuine congratulation. Come to think of it, Microsoft are not bad people. We can bash them all we want, but they sure are good at delivering what gamers want as is Sony. I encourage them to come out with something better than Killzone 2. Microsoft recognizes Killzone 2 as a new wave of technology and I encourage them to raise the bar with their future endeavours. Maybe Sony and Microsoft can work together one day to produce some cross platform gaming, but I won't hold my breath.
You know you got something good going..
Microsoft's congratulatory statement to GG and Sony provides further evidence that Killzone 2 is indeed a huge success. We can all thank Sony and GG for setting a new standard for what a next generation game should look like. Hats off to Sony and GG for little to no problems with the FREE online servers also.
But back to Microsoft, they never congratulate their competition. Sure, they're quick to say they have something better, but that was a genuine congratulation. Come to think of it, Microsoft are not bad people. We can bash them all we want, but they sure are good at delivering what gamers want as is Sony. I encourage them to come out with something better than Killzone 2. Microsoft recognizes Killzone 2 as a new wave of technology and I encourage them to raise the bar with their future endeavours. Maybe Sony and Microsoft can work together one day to produce some cross platform gaming, but I won't hold my breath.
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by Justingraziano - 2009-03-02 |
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» ...
It is 120% IMPOSSIBLE, YES IMPOSSIBLE AS IN NOT AT ALL, NOR WILL IT EVER BE, POSSIBLE for any Microsoft product to be better than anything else. A piece of cow ***** is better than every single Microsoft product ever made COMBINED.
It is 120% IMPOSSIBLE, YES IMPOSSIBLE AS IN NOT AT ALL, NOR WILL IT EVER BE, POSSIBLE for any Microsoft product to be better than anything else. A piece of cow ***** is better than every single Microsoft product ever made COMBINED.
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Re: leq - 2009-03-03 |
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» well
you're just saying that because you're a cow ***** fanboy
you're just saying that because you're a cow ***** fanboy
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Re: Justingraziano - 2009-03-03 |
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» ...
And since Bill Gates so desperately wants to be Hitler, you are a Hitler fanboy.
And since Bill Gates so desperately wants to be Hitler, you are a Hitler fanboy.
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Re: leq - 2009-03-03 |
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» @Justingraziano
my god, you're right!
I've always thought the xbox logo looked a bit like a swastika
my god, you're right!
I've always thought the xbox logo looked a bit like a swastika
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by napsac41 - 2009-03-02 |
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» hah
anyone want to bet bill gates owns a psm and is playing killzone right now??
anyone want to bet bill gates owns a psm and is playing killzone right now??
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Re: saldude2 - 2009-03-07 |
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» n
No
No
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by makaveli80 - 2009-03-02 |
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» They better have something...........
Like a new console! Come on it's 2009 I want the best graphics and best gameplay. PS3 Is the only one that has that. I'm not settling on poor graphics for good gameplay. I have Symphony of the Night for that!
Like a new console! Come on it's 2009 I want the best graphics and best gameplay. PS3 Is the only one that has that. I'm not settling on poor graphics for good gameplay. I have Symphony of the Night for that!
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by Kaneco - 2009-03-02 |
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» Oh God...
...What's next? Hopefully it won't be a failure like Haze was to the PS3.
Another thing, I'm tired of people trying to compare consoles through DLC, Accessories, and Online Cr@p. As much as I like all that extras stuff, let me repeat myself again..."EXTRA" because that's what it is, it's only to extend one's experience with an overplayed (or Over-hyped I should say) game. DLC, Accessories, and Online Play is just to strengthen the consoles or game's shortcomings.
Let's see what M$ has up its sleeve.
...Damn how I long for the days where the Sega Genesis, SNES, N64 had complete games without all of the extra cr@p stuff and as much fun or actually more than today's games. DLC should be left to the sequels, I think GTA: Lost & the Damned was really a filler and a waste of time having nothing to do with Niko Bellic or the actual plot. >_
...What's next? Hopefully it won't be a failure like Haze was to the PS3.
Another thing, I'm tired of people trying to compare consoles through DLC, Accessories, and Online Cr@p. As much as I like all that extras stuff, let me repeat myself again..."EXTRA" because that's what it is, it's only to extend one's experience with an overplayed (or Over-hyped I should say) game. DLC, Accessories, and Online Play is just to strengthen the consoles or game's shortcomings.
Let's see what M$ has up its sleeve.
...Damn how I long for the days where the Sega Genesis, SNES, N64 had complete games without all of the extra cr@p stuff and as much fun or actually more than today's games. DLC should be left to the sequels, I think GTA: Lost & the Damned was really a filler and a waste of time having nothing to do with Niko Bellic or the actual plot. >_
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Re: khaijiao - 2009-03-02 |
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» ?
Saying online play and DLC is merely "extra" is ridiculous. What about games that are strictly played online, or games that are bought almost exclusively for their online content? LBP, COD, and especially KZ2. Even the old consoles you mentioned had add-on hardware.
Saying online play and DLC is merely "extra" is ridiculous. What about games that are strictly played online, or games that are bought almost exclusively for their online content? LBP, COD, and especially KZ2. Even the old consoles you mentioned had add-on hardware.
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Re: Kaneco - 2009-03-02 |
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» @khaijiao
LBP, is an exception because it's concept is about ever-expanding creativity...but COD I beg to differ same goes for KZ2. Add-on hardware is totally different to add-on software, and if you mean the accessories are not extra you really got to revise your concept of what a gaming console truly is down to the core or just get yourself a computer.
Some DLCs are made even before the game's release but decide to hold it back, instead of packing it in as an unlockable and sometimes worst case scenario they'll charge you for it...charging you for the epilogue or continuing after the game's end should be considered a crime (Prince of Persia + Fallout 3). Another thing I forgot to mention, confusing DLC + Expansion Packs is a great mistake...I rather wait for a full Fledged Expansion for $29.99 a piece than ever ending DLCs not worth what's being charged off ranging from $5.99-$15.99 a piece...>_>
Hopefully I proved my point, that gaming lost its touch of innovation and achieving any great leaps any time soon...same pattern over and over again.
LBP, is an exception because it's concept is about ever-expanding creativity...but COD I beg to differ same goes for KZ2. Add-on hardware is totally different to add-on software, and if you mean the accessories are not extra you really got to revise your concept of what a gaming console truly is down to the core or just get yourself a computer.
Some DLCs are made even before the game's release but decide to hold it back, instead of packing it in as an unlockable and sometimes worst case scenario they'll charge you for it...charging you for the epilogue or continuing after the game's end should be considered a crime (Prince of Persia + Fallout 3). Another thing I forgot to mention, confusing DLC + Expansion Packs is a great mistake...I rather wait for a full Fledged Expansion for $29.99 a piece than ever ending DLCs not worth what's being charged off ranging from $5.99-$15.99 a piece...>_>
Hopefully I proved my point, that gaming lost its touch of innovation and achieving any great leaps any time soon...same pattern over and over again.
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Re: khaijiao - 2009-03-02 |
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» @kaneco
my bad, I misinterpreted that. Your clarification helped though, and I agree that DLC in most cases is bs, but I was thinking of full games like wipeout and SFII HD Remix as DLC when I read that as well.
I disagree that video games have lost innovation though, I just think it's more rare these days.
my bad, I misinterpreted that. Your clarification helped though, and I agree that DLC in most cases is bs, but I was thinking of full games like wipeout and SFII HD Remix as DLC when I read that as well.
I disagree that video games have lost innovation though, I just think it's more rare these days.
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Re: Kaneco - 2009-03-02 |
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» @khaijiao
Thanks for understanding my point, I did mean Downloadable content as an addon not a full game like SFII: HD Remix. It's true that there could be innovation but it rarely happens anymore just like you said, today's games follow the same pattern which I find demotivating to actually forward to anything...I think we just hit a wall and now we got to find out a breakthrough to get past that wall just like 2D games jumped to 3D...All we got to do is wait with some faith to it.
Thanks for understanding my point, I did mean Downloadable content as an addon not a full game like SFII: HD Remix. It's true that there could be innovation but it rarely happens anymore just like you said, today's games follow the same pattern which I find demotivating to actually forward to anything...I think we just hit a wall and now we got to find out a breakthrough to get past that wall just like 2D games jumped to 3D...All we got to do is wait with some faith to it.
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Re: Shatterdome - 2009-03-02 |
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» ...
Our whole culture has become stale.
There has been too much creative thought in the last 2000 years that you can barely do anything without copying something else.
So we have reverted to a train of though where "since we have the best technology, let's remake everything 'the way it was meant to be seen'..."
So we are going through a period of remakes and upgrades....keeping the same theory or story but just making it a more viceral or "real" experience than it could have been done in the past...
I agree it's getting old....
As far as add-on DLC....you know I don't care, I am not going to buy extra costumes for SF chars....it'd be sweet to just unlock them instead of crappy concept art....but hey, I also realise we are not in the age of nintendo anymore.
Don't think Nintendo, Sega PS1 to be so pure....they didn't charge for downloadables because it wasn't possible....
Look at sony, not plausible durring PS1, they didn't build in the hardware for PS2, but PS3 is all over it.
Same with nintendo.....that company that sold you "full" games in the past is now re-selling them too your for way too much money.....
Our whole culture has become stale.
There has been too much creative thought in the last 2000 years that you can barely do anything without copying something else.
So we have reverted to a train of though where "since we have the best technology, let's remake everything 'the way it was meant to be seen'..."
So we are going through a period of remakes and upgrades....keeping the same theory or story but just making it a more viceral or "real" experience than it could have been done in the past...
I agree it's getting old....
As far as add-on DLC....you know I don't care, I am not going to buy extra costumes for SF chars....it'd be sweet to just unlock them instead of crappy concept art....but hey, I also realise we are not in the age of nintendo anymore.
Don't think Nintendo, Sega PS1 to be so pure....they didn't charge for downloadables because it wasn't possible....
Look at sony, not plausible durring PS1, they didn't build in the hardware for PS2, but PS3 is all over it.
Same with nintendo.....that company that sold you "full" games in the past is now re-selling them too your for way too much money.....
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by Link75e - 2009-03-02 |
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» MS should of said this when MGS4 came out
Killzone 2 two gameplay isnt that great i sold mine already all i have for my PS3 is MGS4 and The force unleashed but i got it on my PS3 cause it needed some love as almost all my games are on the 360 cause of the achievements and yes theirs trophies but im ashamed on how they are viewed by me and friends. But if they did have something so cool that would blow my pants off would be a Kingdom hearts remake in HD or Zelda ocarina of time HD that would make me cry in joy(forgot final fantasy 7))
Killzone 2 two gameplay isnt that great i sold mine already all i have for my PS3 is MGS4 and The force unleashed but i got it on my PS3 cause it needed some love as almost all my games are on the 360 cause of the achievements and yes theirs trophies but im ashamed on how they are viewed by me and friends. But if they did have something so cool that would blow my pants off would be a Kingdom hearts remake in HD or Zelda ocarina of time HD that would make me cry in joy(forgot final fantasy 7))
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Re: blkthunda - 2009-03-03 |
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» ..
You shouldn't play video games if you're just playing for those stupid numbers on your gamer card or some silly trophies.
You shouldn't play video games if you're just playing for those stupid numbers on your gamer card or some silly trophies.
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by TheDude - 2009-03-02 |
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» no way
Far surpasses anything that gamers have seen so far? Not likely Microsoft. I could see them making something close to Killzone 2's graphics but far past it? I would be afraid to play a game like Killzone 2 on 360, with all the graphical awesomeness, insane physics and particle effects the 360 would likely start smoking and then melt.
Far surpasses anything that gamers have seen so far? Not likely Microsoft. I could see them making something close to Killzone 2's graphics but far past it? I would be afraid to play a game like Killzone 2 on 360, with all the graphical awesomeness, insane physics and particle effects the 360 would likely start smoking and then melt.
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by Allstaraugustine - 2009-03-02 |
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» pft.
hahahahahahhahahahaahahahhaaahah!
they said the SAME thing when MGS4 came out! ahhaahahaha they were like
"oh, we have a character cooler and better than snake in a game we have coming out soon that will match the metal gear series!" hahaha what a bunch of children
hahahahahahhahahahaahahahhaaahah!
they said the SAME thing when MGS4 came out! ahhaahahaha they were like
"oh, we have a character cooler and better than snake in a game we have coming out soon that will match the metal gear series!" hahaha what a bunch of children
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by milo128 - 2009-03-02 |
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» lol
its probably gears 3 or a fps like killzone 2 (not as good graphics though)
its probably gears 3 or a fps like killzone 2 (not as good graphics though)
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by Teflon02 - 2009-03-02 |
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» hhhaaaahaha
they said the same with MGS4 but no game they have matched. ms is all talk Sony is the truth they said they got a halo killer Resistance 2 was it nd really is a halo killer nd better than 95% of these games LBP best platformer out nd said gears has nun on killzone nd im rite just put ur control on alt 2 nd look hold checked best config . this year ps3 exclusives White Knight Chronicle, God of War 3, Killzone 2, MAG, Ratchet & Clank Future 3, Uncharted 2, Bomberman Ultra, Infamous nd more .. Hopefully FF13 ps3 version is out this year cuz its out on ps3 1st lol
they said the same with MGS4 but no game they have matched. ms is all talk Sony is the truth they said they got a halo killer Resistance 2 was it nd really is a halo killer nd better than 95% of these games LBP best platformer out nd said gears has nun on killzone nd im rite just put ur control on alt 2 nd look hold checked best config . this year ps3 exclusives White Knight Chronicle, God of War 3, Killzone 2, MAG, Ratchet & Clank Future 3, Uncharted 2, Bomberman Ultra, Infamous nd more .. Hopefully FF13 ps3 version is out this year cuz its out on ps3 1st lol
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by Stevo Style - 2009-03-02 |
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» strictly BS...
M$ r just 2 full of themselves i hope their so called killzone killer back-fires n blow up in their faces
ive got 3 simple words 4 M$..."crash n burn" it well do da world a HUGE favour!!! LOL
M$ r just 2 full of themselves i hope their so called killzone killer back-fires n blow up in their faces
ive got 3 simple words 4 M$..."crash n burn" it well do da world a HUGE favour!!! LOL
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Re: avatar76 - 2009-03-02 |
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» Got two words for you
Learn English. "it _well_ do you a favour in getting a job" LOL ZOMG WTF BBQ!!
Learn English. "it _well_ do you a favour in getting a job" LOL ZOMG WTF BBQ!!
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Re: Binary - 2009-03-02 |
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» your a
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SO ***** YOU DOUCHE
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by [DVSDevise] - 2009-03-02 |
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» ...
My god, Sony fanboys are touchy. LOL
Get over yourselfs. We all know nothing will ever be better than Killzone 2!!! It's the greatest game ever created and no other game this generation will ever touch it's power.
My god, Sony fanboys are touchy. LOL
Get over yourselfs. We all know nothing will ever be better than Killzone 2!!! It's the greatest game ever created and no other game this generation will ever touch it's power.
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Re: avatar76 - 2009-03-02 |
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» LOL
Yes KZ2 will be still the best game in 10 years time :P
Yes KZ2 will be still the best game in 10 years time :P
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Re: saldude2 - 2009-03-07 |
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» STFU
No its not the best game is not even made yet fool
No its not the best game is not even made yet fool
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by avatar76 - 2009-03-02 |
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» *YAWN*
"Considering the limitations of the 360", what a load of rubbish. Need I bring up again as with every time this bull ***** gets posted on here by qj staff that the 360 has beaten the PS3 on every single multi platform release. You can talk about lazy developers until the cows come home but the simple fact is the PS3 has been inferior nearly every time.
"Considering the limitations of the 360", what a load of rubbish. Need I bring up again as with every time this bull ***** gets posted on here by qj staff that the 360 has beaten the PS3 on every single multi platform release. You can talk about lazy developers until the cows come home but the simple fact is the PS3 has been inferior nearly every time.
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Re: Shatterdome - 2009-03-02 |
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» ...
Sorry, but you do not judge one console vs another based on multi-platform releases. Because, like ps3 vs 360, yeah it is about lazy developers....as cliche as it sounds. 360 is basically a PC, can be programmed like a PC....PS3 needs the program to be designed and programmed around the architecture of the PS3....most consoles have been like this in the past.
When you judge one console vs another you have to look at Exclusives, and only exclusives, to see what the system is truly capable of....
Right now, Killzone 2 beats Gears 2.....PS3 has the upper hand as far as showing off technical acheivements...
Sorry, but you do not judge one console vs another based on multi-platform releases. Because, like ps3 vs 360, yeah it is about lazy developers....as cliche as it sounds. 360 is basically a PC, can be programmed like a PC....PS3 needs the program to be designed and programmed around the architecture of the PS3....most consoles have been like this in the past.
When you judge one console vs another you have to look at Exclusives, and only exclusives, to see what the system is truly capable of....
Right now, Killzone 2 beats Gears 2.....PS3 has the upper hand as far as showing off technical acheivements...
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Re: Shatterdome - 2009-03-02 |
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» oh...
I also wanted to counter argue that you can say Killzone has been in devlopment since gears 1 was, maybe before. However, this just goes to show the learning curve that is inherent in developing for PS3....and the time paid off.
KZ3 will be amazing....and since SCE studios are sharing information, everything learned in KZ2 will be applied to future SCE games.....
I also wanted to counter argue that you can say Killzone has been in devlopment since gears 1 was, maybe before. However, this just goes to show the learning curve that is inherent in developing for PS3....and the time paid off.
KZ3 will be amazing....and since SCE studios are sharing information, everything learned in KZ2 will be applied to future SCE games.....
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Re: thefinalhero - 2009-03-03 |
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» If they're released at the same time...
When it's as far as porting at the same time yes then the 360 more often then not may look better. But look at Oblivion. It was ported to PS3 a year after the 360 and looked even better.
When it's as far as porting at the same time yes then the 360 more often then not may look better. But look at Oblivion. It was ported to PS3 a year after the 360 and looked even better.
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