Posted May 11, 2007 at 02:19AM by Ian C.
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The Geforce 7900 inside the PS3 is no match for Xenos in the Xbox. Even the Sony Cell would probably end beaten by 48 vec4+scalar units hidden inside Xbox's 360 graphics chip. Folding@Home is Stream Computing at its finest, and six/seven/eight SPE units can flourish in the CPU. But when compared to the GPU, the Xbox 360 GPU would probably run in circles around Cell CPU. |
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by spuit (Unregistered) - 2007-05-12 |
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» PR talk is cheap, GFLOPS are not.
Microsoft bull***** PR babble directly contradicts what the makers of the Folding @ Home program.
GG Moore, come again.
Microsoft bull***** PR babble directly contradicts what the makers of the Folding @ Home program.
GG Moore, come again.
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by Anybody can google this better than me? (Unregistered) - 2007-05-12 |
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» Heat problem
Not too long ago, I read an internet article about the fact that some people had problems running the GPU code on some PC cards. Most of the problems was with the Catalyst driver, dll and so on, but then the article was also talking about heat dissipation. People with cheaper cards (I think it was Sapphire brand, but don't quote me) had smaller heatsinks and would freeze while folding. Shutting down, waiting until cool and rebooting was ok. Some had to run with case open. The interesting part is that they were saying you could possibly run GPU and CPU on a PC at the same time, but they would have to have case wide open and mega fan blowing in. Where it became interesting, is the fact that at the end, they said you could not run any folding on a GPU console because heatsinks would never be able to take the heat out because they were too small.
I cannot find this article anymore. It was likely a bit old because they were talking about being able to fold only on a X1900, and today you can fold on the X1800.
My two cent: I'm running folding at home on my PC and my PS3, and in both case, nothing is running hot at all. So I'm assuming GPU may give out way more heat than CPU... That's why we may never see any coding done for our consoles...
Not too long ago, I read an internet article about the fact that some people had problems running the GPU code on some PC cards. Most of the problems was with the Catalyst driver, dll and so on, but then the article was also talking about heat dissipation. People with cheaper cards (I think it was Sapphire brand, but don't quote me) had smaller heatsinks and would freeze while folding. Shutting down, waiting until cool and rebooting was ok. Some had to run with case open. The interesting part is that they were saying you could possibly run GPU and CPU on a PC at the same time, but they would have to have case wide open and mega fan blowing in. Where it became interesting, is the fact that at the end, they said you could not run any folding on a GPU console because heatsinks would never be able to take the heat out because they were too small.
I cannot find this article anymore. It was likely a bit old because they were talking about being able to fold only on a X1900, and today you can fold on the X1800.
My two cent: I'm running folding at home on my PC and my PS3, and in both case, nothing is running hot at all. So I'm assuming GPU may give out way more heat than CPU... That's why we may never see any coding done for our consoles...
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by ltchronic302 - 2007-05-12 |
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» drol
drol youre right i didnt thoroughly read the article which i should have before posting. So since the inquirer said that it has no credibility what so ever. Thanks for a good laugh qj
drol youre right i didnt thoroughly read the article which i should have before posting. So since the inquirer said that it has no credibility what so ever. Thanks for a good laugh qj
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by whorely post (Unregistered) - 2007-05-12 |
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» smash360
the 360 will actually explode, lets face it, the 360 is built by microsoft, world leader in major ***** ups, if microsoft ruled america it would be the same as Bush's presidency now, I.E SH1T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! f*ck off and make a more efficient console you sockbats
the 360 will actually explode, lets face it, the 360 is built by microsoft, world leader in major ***** ups, if microsoft ruled america it would be the same as Bush's presidency now, I.E SH1T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! f*ck off and make a more efficient console you sockbats
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by Piratelad (Unregistered) - 2007-05-13 |
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» the truth
for me it's a general rule when i see negetive comments about a console, to look at who actually made the comment, if it's the rival/competitor, i completely ignore it in favour of reality, not accept the *****ty attempt to sell more units.
To sony : Good job with Folding@home, now release some bloody games
To Microsoft : Shut up, Put up, or release your own Folding@home software, IF then, the results show that the 360 can handle it better, THEN you can showboat, mindless tattle "ours can do better than that" is nothing more than childish playground taunts.
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that is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
for me it's a general rule when i see negetive comments about a console, to look at who actually made the comment, if it's the rival/competitor, i completely ignore it in favour of reality, not accept the *****ty attempt to sell more units.
To sony : Good job with Folding@home, now release some bloody games
To Microsoft : Shut up, Put up, or release your own Folding@home software, IF then, the results show that the 360 can handle it better, THEN you can showboat, mindless tattle "ours can do better than that" is nothing more than childish playground taunts.
^^
that is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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by Me (Unregistered) - 2007-05-13 |
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» hmmm
If the 360 GPU is so much more powerful in Folding then MS should release a version of the calculating program for their console. =) Personally I think the Cell has way more processing power, but that's just me.
Spreading fear again...
If the 360 GPU is so much more powerful in Folding then MS should release a version of the calculating program for their console. =) Personally I think the Cell has way more processing power, but that's just me.
Spreading fear again...
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by WTF!?!?!?!?! (Unregistered) - 2007-05-16 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
This is all a bunch of bull!
1. Any current GPU can out perform any current CPU when it comes to graphics. That right there is a, NO "CRAP" statement.
2. The research devs at Stanford looked at BOTH SYSTEMS and chose the PS3 SPECIFICLY because it beats the 360 hands down for what they need to calculate the most.
So, regardless of what anyone THINKS the 360 can do, in the end it's doesn't do what Stanford needs.
So, NO! The 360 can not out fold the PS3.
This is all a bunch of bull!
1. Any current GPU can out perform any current CPU when it comes to graphics. That right there is a, NO "CRAP" statement.
2. The research devs at Stanford looked at BOTH SYSTEMS and chose the PS3 SPECIFICLY because it beats the 360 hands down for what they need to calculate the most.
So, regardless of what anyone THINKS the 360 can do, in the end it's doesn't do what Stanford needs.
So, NO! The 360 can not out fold the PS3.
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by Dodo - 2007-05-22 |
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» ...
Right, I'll eat my hat before believing a word this guy has to say. It's really pathetic they have to make things up to take a jab at PS3 for everything. Even for something as good as this initiative that PS3 is supporting. Microsoft sucks balls. I'll be so happy when they still lose the console war despite all their wealth and year head-start.
Right, I'll eat my hat before believing a word this guy has to say. It's really pathetic they have to make things up to take a jab at PS3 for everything. Even for something as good as this initiative that PS3 is supporting. Microsoft sucks balls. I'll be so happy when they still lose the console war despite all their wealth and year head-start.
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by srHBiGBoSS (Unregistered) - 2007-06-03 |
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» EL OW ELL!!!
this lil report is hilarious , they're actually saying that an ATI GRAPHICS ...and again GRAPHICS processing unit can beat the Cell processor that handles not only graphics but physics and AI to the tiniest detail and was under development by IBM and Toshiba since 2001
seriously the only downfall i see on the PS3 is that released too late .....the world is mined with X360 followers already
this lil report is hilarious , they're actually saying that an ATI GRAPHICS ...and again GRAPHICS processing unit can beat the Cell processor that handles not only graphics but physics and AI to the tiniest detail and was under development by IBM and Toshiba since 2001
seriously the only downfall i see on the PS3 is that released too late .....the world is mined with X360 followers already
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