Posted Jul 03, 2007 at 12:11AM by Sally B.
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I can't comment on failure rates, because it's just not something – it's a moving target. What this consumer should worry about is the way that we've treated him. Y'know, things break, and if we've treated him well and fixed his problem, that's something that we're focused on right now. I'm not going to comment on individual failure rates because I'm shipping in 36 countries and it's a complex business. We see a ton of [Xbox 360s] come back all the time. We strongly push our customers to buy our service plans no matter what they buy, but it is especially important for them with the Xbox 360. It’s a lucky thing for us that Microsoft extended the factory warranty to one year, because we were having a hell of a time dealing with the launch units. Now we don't have to deal with those broken [Xbox 360s] until their second year, for those who have purchased the two year plans.
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by Quixand - 2007-07-03 |
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» lol
oh man... this made my day.
oh man... this made my day.
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Re: ME (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» ....
Standard MicroSux Quality... let people beta test their products.
I can see a huge class action against MicroSux. Jack Thompson, take note, this is the type of case ambulancing chasing low life would go for. :)
Standard MicroSux Quality... let people beta test their products.
I can see a huge class action against MicroSux. Jack Thompson, take note, this is the type of case ambulancing chasing low life would go for. :)
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Re: heath (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» mine broke
Yeah I stood in line on release day and bought one and it broke. I'm not any sort of fanboy or whatever but i'm still happy with my 360 after microsoft fixed the problem. I'm more of a fanboy of xbox live than anything else.
Yeah I stood in line on release day and bought one and it broke. I'm not any sort of fanboy or whatever but i'm still happy with my 360 after microsoft fixed the problem. I'm more of a fanboy of xbox live than anything else.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-07-03 |
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» just a PS3 fanboy reporting
This article is based on reports of only 2 guys, FORMER EB Games EMPLOYEE (yeah, not even a manager or anything) Matthiew G. who took it upon himself to guesstimate 33%. Also, an unnamed best buy "customer service" drone said around 25% of the launch units were returned.
So what happened to the poll that supposedly took place? The article only mentioned 2 people who responded. 2 f*cking people! What kind of poll is that? You might as well ask quixand what the failure rate of the 360 is and publish it in Gizmodo. I can see the headlines now: XBOX 360 has 100% failure rate! Source: idiotic fantard Quixand.
So some consoles break, but the 33% is pure BS. It's just what happens when you believe figures from PS3 fanboy former EB games employees.
This article is based on reports of only 2 guys, FORMER EB Games EMPLOYEE (yeah, not even a manager or anything) Matthiew G. who took it upon himself to guesstimate 33%. Also, an unnamed best buy "customer service" drone said around 25% of the launch units were returned.
So what happened to the poll that supposedly took place? The article only mentioned 2 people who responded. 2 f*cking people! What kind of poll is that? You might as well ask quixand what the failure rate of the 360 is and publish it in Gizmodo. I can see the headlines now: XBOX 360 has 100% failure rate! Source: idiotic fantard Quixand.
So some consoles break, but the 33% is pure BS. It's just what happens when you believe figures from PS3 fanboy former EB games employees.
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Re: heh (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» The Truth
Truth hurts doesn't it common?
Truth hurts doesn't it common?
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-07-03 |
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» Not really...
I think it's BS...
Because out of 60 people with 360's that I know, not one has had a problem....not one....so if it really was something as high as 33%, out of 60 people at least one would have it fail....
People are just looking for headlines and ways to bash the 360 since it's the best console out there and PS3 users know it, they have to find SOMETHING wrong with it to make themselves feel better....
I think it's BS...
Because out of 60 people with 360's that I know, not one has had a problem....not one....so if it really was something as high as 33%, out of 60 people at least one would have it fail....
People are just looking for headlines and ways to bash the 360 since it's the best console out there and PS3 users know it, they have to find SOMETHING wrong with it to make themselves feel better....
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Re: JK (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Your joking
I have a wii and a ps2, and i was looking to buy a 360, but this has made me think about this again!
I have a wii and a ps2, and i was looking to buy a 360, but this has made me think about this again!
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Re: Ps3 god (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» mr.ps3
watch this is the same thing as this just better http://youtube.com/watch?v+JihoJEKD69A+mode+related+search+
watch this is the same thing as this just better http://youtube.com/watch?v+JihoJEKD69A+mode+related+search+
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Re: Beejbc (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Shatterdome is an idiot
So you "know" 60 people and none have had a problem. Okay, so if I say I know 30 people and many have had problems, some multiple, well...that means 30/90 people that we know between us have had problems. Your small "sample" of 60 people obviously extrapolates to the entire ownership of 360s. Congrats, you've rewritten already known history.
Stop being such a *****ing fanboy. It's obvious there are problems, just leave it at that. Don't defend it, unless you're getting paid by Microsoft...and in that case, fix my goddamn 360 for free.
So you "know" 60 people and none have had a problem. Okay, so if I say I know 30 people and many have had problems, some multiple, well...that means 30/90 people that we know between us have had problems. Your small "sample" of 60 people obviously extrapolates to the entire ownership of 360s. Congrats, you've rewritten already known history.
Stop being such a *****ing fanboy. It's obvious there are problems, just leave it at that. Don't defend it, unless you're getting paid by Microsoft...and in that case, fix my goddamn 360 for free.
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-07-03 |
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» no...
I'm sure there are problems, just not "33%" because yes, if it was that high i'm sure one of the 60 people I know would have had a problem....it's too high of a percentage for it not to come up once in 60 times....
Also, people play it off like your 360 WILL die at some point....i've tortured my 360 and it's still fine....so it's not an inherent problem, just random defects....
I'm sure there are problems, just not "33%" because yes, if it was that high i'm sure one of the 60 people I know would have had a problem....it's too high of a percentage for it not to come up once in 60 times....
Also, people play it off like your 360 WILL die at some point....i've tortured my 360 and it's still fine....so it's not an inherent problem, just random defects....
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Re: Stealth (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» lol to Shatterdome
Thats incorrect, Its not how many people you know, its 33% of all consoles that has been released worldwide. So Your 60 people is 1% to how many consoles have been released and sold Worldwide.
Wow and i thought Mister common sense was stupid you basically just hit his level of ignorance. This is fact get over it. Why do you think MS isn't telling us, well here is your proof.
Thats incorrect, Its not how many people you know, its 33% of all consoles that has been released worldwide. So Your 60 people is 1% to how many consoles have been released and sold Worldwide.
Wow and i thought Mister common sense was stupid you basically just hit his level of ignorance. This is fact get over it. Why do you think MS isn't telling us, well here is your proof.
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Re: mister denial (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» moron
uh did you read the article "mr. common sense"?. It says they tried to get official numbers from microsoft but they wont admit it. They wont deny it either because they know its true. you are a F***in nitwit. Its obvious that you and microsoft are in denial, why dont you just own it?
uh did you read the article "mr. common sense"?. It says they tried to get official numbers from microsoft but they wont admit it. They wont deny it either because they know its true. you are a F***in nitwit. Its obvious that you and microsoft are in denial, why dont you just own it?
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-07-03 |
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» ok..
Mr doesn't know the difference between ram and a harddrive.
It's too bad that these "Sources" don't list any firm numbers and just say "a ton came back" "oh, more durring launch, forsure...uh uh..." ...because then I could throw your logic back in your face and say that the X number that have failed are only a small percentange of those sold worldwide....but unfortunately the sources are unreliable and don't post any reliable facts....Not to mention that MS stated that 360's built in 2005 had a higher defect rate and these sources are all mention the time of launch and the times following....there are at least 2 million 2005 consoles out there, that's alot that MS already admited will fail more....means absolutely nothing about recent 360s...
Said it before, i'll say it again...33% is too high of a percentage not to happen once in 60 times...regardless of the total # of consoles out there......
Also, how are these worldwide statistics when the "Facts" come from two former employees of EB and Best buy which are NA companies?
I don't beleive everything I hear, sorry to tell you.....
Guess what... I AM a former EB employee and I worked at the largest branch in greater new york....we sold the most consoles in our store then any other store in the country, and not one 360 came back defective.....one customer thought his was broken, but his cat had just wiggled the audio/video connection loose in the back....
You know how easy it is to lie on the internet ? Especially on some random survey ?
Not that I care too much, because my box works fine and i'm not worried one bit about it failing...
Mr doesn't know the difference between ram and a harddrive.
It's too bad that these "Sources" don't list any firm numbers and just say "a ton came back" "oh, more durring launch, forsure...uh uh..." ...because then I could throw your logic back in your face and say that the X number that have failed are only a small percentange of those sold worldwide....but unfortunately the sources are unreliable and don't post any reliable facts....Not to mention that MS stated that 360's built in 2005 had a higher defect rate and these sources are all mention the time of launch and the times following....there are at least 2 million 2005 consoles out there, that's alot that MS already admited will fail more....means absolutely nothing about recent 360s...
Said it before, i'll say it again...33% is too high of a percentage not to happen once in 60 times...regardless of the total # of consoles out there......
Also, how are these worldwide statistics when the "Facts" come from two former employees of EB and Best buy which are NA companies?
I don't beleive everything I hear, sorry to tell you.....
Guess what... I AM a former EB employee and I worked at the largest branch in greater new york....we sold the most consoles in our store then any other store in the country, and not one 360 came back defective.....one customer thought his was broken, but his cat had just wiggled the audio/video connection loose in the back....
You know how easy it is to lie on the internet ? Especially on some random survey ?
Not that I care too much, because my box works fine and i'm not worried one bit about it failing...
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-07-03 |
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» Denial...
"No comment" is a pretty common response from microsoft.....
I am not in denial...I'd be in denial if I actual saw these figures comming to life and tried to say it wasn't....but in my experience no one has had problems with their 360....
Also, why would I be in denial when my 360 works fine, and that is really all that matters...
The only reason I am debating in here is to maybe get you idiots that beleive everything that is shoveled down your throats to do a little critical thinking on your own....
The article here states it like this is a fact, which is missleading....at least the source article says "could be as high as"
Sometimes I wonder why I bother....
"No comment" is a pretty common response from microsoft.....
I am not in denial...I'd be in denial if I actual saw these figures comming to life and tried to say it wasn't....but in my experience no one has had problems with their 360....
Also, why would I be in denial when my 360 works fine, and that is really all that matters...
The only reason I am debating in here is to maybe get you idiots that beleive everything that is shoveled down your throats to do a little critical thinking on your own....
The article here states it like this is a fact, which is missleading....at least the source article says "could be as high as"
Sometimes I wonder why I bother....
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Re: Stealth (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Shatterdome
lol You're as believable as your current stars, oh wait you have non lol.
The fact is its worldwide from all of these two stores, now add this to the defective consoles going straight to the MS headquarters That turns into 37%+, wow thats alot, i rather take my chances with a pricey ps3, not alot games and one that doesn't crap out.
lol You're as believable as your current stars, oh wait you have non lol.
The fact is its worldwide from all of these two stores, now add this to the defective consoles going straight to the MS headquarters That turns into 37%+, wow thats alot, i rather take my chances with a pricey ps3, not alot games and one that doesn't crap out.
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Re: antonio (Unregistered) - 2007-07-04 |
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» ^^^lmfao
my 360 that i bought mid february died late march and i got another under warrenty and that one also died the day after my birthday, which was may 12, so i got another under warrenty and that one is having trouble reading discs and is about to die any day now. so according to my experiance the life span of a 360 is a month and a half. i know 2 people that have launch ps3s and about 15 other people that have newer ps3s and none of them ever had a problem. i wish i bought a ps3 instead, imo the ps3 graphics are better and some great games have come out already and more are on the way. i can see the ps3 on top of the charts in a year.
my 360 that i bought mid february died late march and i got another under warrenty and that one also died the day after my birthday, which was may 12, so i got another under warrenty and that one is having trouble reading discs and is about to die any day now. so according to my experiance the life span of a 360 is a month and a half. i know 2 people that have launch ps3s and about 15 other people that have newer ps3s and none of them ever had a problem. i wish i bought a ps3 instead, imo the ps3 graphics are better and some great games have come out already and more are on the way. i can see the ps3 on top of the charts in a year.
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Re: Folding Junkie! - 2007-07-04 |
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» Shatterdome!
I only know 4 XBOX 360 owners and 2 of them have had to bring their consoles back. That is 50%! My point is not that 50% of ALL XBOX 360's break. My point is that I know 2 out of 4 and you know 0 out of 60 (or so you say). Every sample will be different! Yours proves nothing!
On top of that I know way more than 60 people but only know which console about 10 of them have. I don't believe your numbers any more than I believe it when M$ says that they are at the industry average for defective consoles. Their claim is BS and so is yours!
Have a nice day!
I only know 4 XBOX 360 owners and 2 of them have had to bring their consoles back. That is 50%! My point is not that 50% of ALL XBOX 360's break. My point is that I know 2 out of 4 and you know 0 out of 60 (or so you say). Every sample will be different! Yours proves nothing!
On top of that I know way more than 60 people but only know which console about 10 of them have. I don't believe your numbers any more than I believe it when M$ says that they are at the industry average for defective consoles. Their claim is BS and so is yours!
Have a nice day!
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-07-04 |
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» You guys just proved my point...
Samplings from everywhere are different, so how can this be set in stone ? The only way is to poll EVERY 360 owner and hope they respond truthfully...
How do I know 60 people with 360's ? It's called 10 are real friends and the other 50 are people I talk to regularly on xbox live....it's really easy to make "friends" on XBL, and pretty much everyone has a mic...all my friends do, so we just blab away at each other while we play or watch movies.....guess PSN is lacking in that area as well...
But ya "so you say" and "so you say" and "So says he" and "so says the friend of he"
blah blah blah.....
I also like how you make up little facts like "37%" because of those being returned to MS headquarters....haha, ya let's pull some more numbers out of our asses....
Samplings from everywhere are different, so how can this be set in stone ? The only way is to poll EVERY 360 owner and hope they respond truthfully...
How do I know 60 people with 360's ? It's called 10 are real friends and the other 50 are people I talk to regularly on xbox live....it's really easy to make "friends" on XBL, and pretty much everyone has a mic...all my friends do, so we just blab away at each other while we play or watch movies.....guess PSN is lacking in that area as well...
But ya "so you say" and "so you say" and "So says he" and "so says the friend of he"
blah blah blah.....
I also like how you make up little facts like "37%" because of those being returned to MS headquarters....haha, ya let's pull some more numbers out of our asses....
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by TotalKore (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Dead 360
Mine broke yesterday... no ring of death though, every game just crashes... emailed them, got e-mail back with call customer service. Called them and the first thing they say is call back tomorrow, we´re having technical difficulties (in belgium). Very nice people over there *AHUM*
Mine broke yesterday... no ring of death though, every game just crashes... emailed them, got e-mail back with call customer service. Called them and the first thing they say is call back tomorrow, we´re having technical difficulties (in belgium). Very nice people over there *AHUM*
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by Joe Mamma (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» This website is really starting to suck
This is the third time I have seen this story on this site.. I have a feeling someone on the editorial board here is anti-XBOX..
How about this for a headline. The PS3 has no sales and no games and a ***** ass online feature.
Or
The Wii has retarded little kid games.
This is the third time I have seen this story on this site.. I have a feeling someone on the editorial board here is anti-XBOX..
How about this for a headline. The PS3 has no sales and no games and a ***** ass online feature.
Or
The Wii has retarded little kid games.
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Re: The Truth (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» awwww
poor little MicroSux lover... can't handle the truth? Can you!
PS3 is selling more than CrapBox360 at the same period.
Wii is kicking azz.
CrapBox is dying.
That's the truth man.
poor little MicroSux lover... can't handle the truth? Can you!
PS3 is selling more than CrapBox360 at the same period.
Wii is kicking azz.
CrapBox is dying.
That's the truth man.
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Re: The Real Truth (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» awwww
Poor MicroSux lover, can't handle the truth? Can you!
PS3 sales aree better than XBOX360 during the same period after launch.
Wii is kicking butt.
XBOX360 is dying.
That's the Real Truth man...
Poor MicroSux lover, can't handle the truth? Can you!
PS3 sales aree better than XBOX360 during the same period after launch.
Wii is kicking butt.
XBOX360 is dying.
That's the Real Truth man...
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Re: sigh (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» another loser
This article was on the xbox 360 you damned loser. Silly fanboy, It's not about the ps3, so why even bring it into this? I know why, cause your a sucker, an xbot, a fanboy, get a damn life.
This article was on the xbox 360 you damned loser. Silly fanboy, It's not about the ps3, so why even bring it into this? I know why, cause your a sucker, an xbot, a fanboy, get a damn life.
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Re: mohaas05 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» ...
microsoft still won't admit they f*cked up with the 360's cooling system. nor will they try to fix it. i guess to them profit is better than quality.
microsoft still won't admit they f*cked up with the 360's cooling system. nor will they try to fix it. i guess to them profit is better than quality.
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Re: fhd (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» The best place to find ps3 hater is here even though this is about 360 failure rate
Lollllll look at that hater hes such a fa/g
Lollllll look at that hater hes such a fa/g
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Re: dean (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» duhh
Um this is a blog of other stories... I have a ps3.. I like the 360 also.. Fanboys of any system need a life.. anywho, If I had a 360, id be pretty ticked at Microsoft... ehh Hesitate to mention, but honestly, look at MS's trackrecord... oh well maybe sega will come out with the Sii and the world will be perfect ehh?..
BTW I deffinetly see a lawsuit, and would love to help start it.. Some big money there, 10m units wow alot of money to that lawyer.
Um this is a blog of other stories... I have a ps3.. I like the 360 also.. Fanboys of any system need a life.. anywho, If I had a 360, id be pretty ticked at Microsoft... ehh Hesitate to mention, but honestly, look at MS's trackrecord... oh well maybe sega will come out with the Sii and the world will be perfect ehh?..
BTW I deffinetly see a lawsuit, and would love to help start it.. Some big money there, 10m units wow alot of money to that lawyer.
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by smokeelaa - 2007-07-03 |
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» It does worry me a little
I got my 360 in January 06 and have been a little worried that it may fail. I am actually starting to hope somewhat for a class-action that will force them to repair or replace for free.
If numbers are anywhere near 30% there is a good chance this will happen.
I got my 360 in January 06 and have been a little worried that it may fail. I am actually starting to hope somewhat for a class-action that will force them to repair or replace for free.
If numbers are anywhere near 30% there is a good chance this will happen.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-07-03 |
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» .
If you're worried, install an XCM fan upgrade and keep your system properly ventilated. You can also install some arctic silver 5 heatsink compound to lower temperatures a little more. My system lasted 15 months, but I did anyway for a little more peace of mind.
I still think the 30% figure is BS.
If you're worried, install an XCM fan upgrade and keep your system properly ventilated. You can also install some arctic silver 5 heatsink compound to lower temperatures a little more. My system lasted 15 months, but I did anyway for a little more peace of mind.
I still think the 30% figure is BS.
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Re: ugh (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» mister
Dude, most people buy consoles so they don't have to bother about upgrading and messing around with the gaming system in general. Having to install all the stuff you just said, BY YOURSELF, defeats the friggin purpose. Not only that, not everyone has the technical know hows, to do this themselves. Secondly, It would cost more money if they had them installed by a repair store.
So I ask you, whats the point of buying the 360?
Dude, most people buy consoles so they don't have to bother about upgrading and messing around with the gaming system in general. Having to install all the stuff you just said, BY YOURSELF, defeats the friggin purpose. Not only that, not everyone has the technical know hows, to do this themselves. Secondly, It would cost more money if they had them installed by a repair store.
So I ask you, whats the point of buying the 360?
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-07-03 |
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» so?
You pop off some clips, remove some screws, and install some new fans. Another plus is the blue lighting and digital temp gauge that tells you how hot the CPU and GPU is. My CPU normally is only 40 degrees and the GPU is only 50 degrees celcius. It isn't even close to overheating. It comes with good instructions. Is that hard?
I enjoy taking things apart myself. Why does everyone have to complain? Complain if it breaks and MS fixes it, wahhh 3 weeks with no XBOX. Wahh I had to spend $60 and a half hour to make a nice upgrade. Why pay to have a repair store install it? It's so easy. Ask me if you have problems!
I will answer any of your XBOX technical questions.
You pop off some clips, remove some screws, and install some new fans. Another plus is the blue lighting and digital temp gauge that tells you how hot the CPU and GPU is. My CPU normally is only 40 degrees and the GPU is only 50 degrees celcius. It isn't even close to overheating. It comes with good instructions. Is that hard?
I enjoy taking things apart myself. Why does everyone have to complain? Complain if it breaks and MS fixes it, wahhh 3 weeks with no XBOX. Wahh I had to spend $60 and a half hour to make a nice upgrade. Why pay to have a repair store install it? It's so easy. Ask me if you have problems!
I will answer any of your XBOX technical questions.
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Re: ugh (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» mister
Just re-read what you wrote. You sound like you got backed up into a corner and don't have anything better to say. Stop defending the 360 so blindly. Yea popping off those clips and all that voids warranty. And last I remembered, not EVERYONE enjoys popping open a an expensive piece of hardware.
Just re-read what you wrote. You sound like you got backed up into a corner and don't have anything better to say. Stop defending the 360 so blindly. Yea popping off those clips and all that voids warranty. And last I remembered, not EVERYONE enjoys popping open a an expensive piece of hardware.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-07-03 |
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» whatever
He said his system was out of warranty so does it matter? It's not as fragile as you might think. You could probably find an installation video if you wanted. People mod the 360 all the time for piracy and whatnot. If you're too stupid to read simple step by step instructions or operate a screwdriver how do you know how to use a controller?
Sure you shouldn't have to do this, and you probably don't, but seriously, what is the big friggin' deal? I had to take my PS2 apart to replace and adjust the laser and it was much more difficult than this.
He said his system was out of warranty so does it matter? It's not as fragile as you might think. You could probably find an installation video if you wanted. People mod the 360 all the time for piracy and whatnot. If you're too stupid to read simple step by step instructions or operate a screwdriver how do you know how to use a controller?
Sure you shouldn't have to do this, and you probably don't, but seriously, what is the big friggin' deal? I had to take my PS2 apart to replace and adjust the laser and it was much more difficult than this.
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Re: ugh (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» don't bs
Don't bull***** us about changing a ps2's laser. I know perfectly well your lying. Some one just left a message about changing the ps2's laser, so now you have to jump on the band wagon...won't fly with me. moving on, people can very well be masters as using a controller and yet not know or not want to mess with an expensive piece of equipment. And you fail to see that.
Like I stated earlier, you fight for the 360 blindly and come of as an xbox fanboy. People don't want to be arsed about having to fix a broken console over and over again mk? Period, I'm not spending 400+ dollars for headaches end of story/discussion cause it's going no where.
Don't bull***** us about changing a ps2's laser. I know perfectly well your lying. Some one just left a message about changing the ps2's laser, so now you have to jump on the band wagon...won't fly with me. moving on, people can very well be masters as using a controller and yet not know or not want to mess with an expensive piece of equipment. And you fail to see that.
Like I stated earlier, you fight for the 360 blindly and come of as an xbox fanboy. People don't want to be arsed about having to fix a broken console over and over again mk? Period, I'm not spending 400+ dollars for headaches end of story/discussion cause it's going no where.
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Re: smokeelaa - 2007-07-03 |
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» Ya but...
that is not the point. I could open up my 360 and throw some stuff in there to (hopefully) prevent failure, but why should I have to.
And for that matter, if I were to do that and some class-action thing does come thru, then I am stuck because I decided to open it up.
that is not the point. I could open up my 360 and throw some stuff in there to (hopefully) prevent failure, but why should I have to.
And for that matter, if I were to do that and some class-action thing does come thru, then I am stuck because I decided to open it up.
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Re: Justin (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» hmmm...but?
Mister Common Sense...you make the point that things like Forza come so ready out of the box...shouldn't my system be properly cooled right out of the box too?
Why should I have to buy attachments just to keep it functioning. I love your fanboy doublespeak...because yes, you too are a fanboy...even if you like to throw it at everyone else.
Mister Common Sense...you make the point that things like Forza come so ready out of the box...shouldn't my system be properly cooled right out of the box too?
Why should I have to buy attachments just to keep it functioning. I love your fanboy doublespeak...because yes, you too are a fanboy...even if you like to throw it at everyone else.
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by DMan (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» That's Horrible
33%, that's horrible, and sounds like they are scamming people. What are these people to do once they're warranties run out and they're 360s fail?
Microsoft is in for a heap of trouble in the future, and they are going to have to answer to some very angry people when warranties start running out and 1/3 of the people are paying $100+ to get replacements that have a 1/3 possibility of failing. I definately see a class-action suit in the works.
33%, that's horrible, and sounds like they are scamming people. What are these people to do once they're warranties run out and they're 360s fail?
Microsoft is in for a heap of trouble in the future, and they are going to have to answer to some very angry people when warranties start running out and 1/3 of the people are paying $100+ to get replacements that have a 1/3 possibility of failing. I definately see a class-action suit in the works.
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Re: stunna (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» well
i got another console when mine broke and they told me they are putting a 1 year warranty in the one i just got...i dont know if its a new thing they are doing
i got another console when mine broke and they told me they are putting a 1 year warranty in the one i just got...i dont know if its a new thing they are doing
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by huh... (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Is it just me?...
Is it just me or is the P.S 3 looking mighty good right about now? With the xbox 360's breaking down and all, and having to spend an extra 140+ bucks to fix it when your warranty runs out, Isn't it better to invest that money into what you'd use in buying a 360 and buy a P.S 3 instead? Just a thought.
Is it just me or is the P.S 3 looking mighty good right about now? With the xbox 360's breaking down and all, and having to spend an extra 140+ bucks to fix it when your warranty runs out, Isn't it better to invest that money into what you'd use in buying a 360 and buy a P.S 3 instead? Just a thought.
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Re: Stealth (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» LOL good point
Yea i knew the ps3 would do great. And by this, xbox 360 is starting to turn into a Sega Dreamcast or saturn.
Yea i knew the ps3 would do great. And by this, xbox 360 is starting to turn into a Sega Dreamcast or saturn.
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by Philip (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» re
Just buy a ps3, the failure rate is maybe 0,01% and you have a blu-ray player.
Just buy a ps3, the failure rate is maybe 0,01% and you have a blu-ray player.
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Re: Mister Common Sense (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» yup
Your right.
Well, after the s.e.x. party me and xman just had, i relized what a douche bag i really am! I am going to sell my 360 and get a PS3 since its got better hardware, software, and its getting more salls all over the World!
The Games are so much better for the PS3, like warhawk, lair, Ninja gaiden, GTA which is exclusive for ps3 owners, and Uncharted, MGS 4, Killzone which is way better than Gears, and also we are getting many more games than 360 this year.
.... You have.... halo 3..... Gears... Bioshock....Halo3? wow im gonna have so much fun whith this *****Box, 360. :( bad mistake in wasting 400 for something so gayyyy.
Your right.
Well, after the s.e.x. party me and xman just had, i relized what a douche bag i really am! I am going to sell my 360 and get a PS3 since its got better hardware, software, and its getting more salls all over the World!
The Games are so much better for the PS3, like warhawk, lair, Ninja gaiden, GTA which is exclusive for ps3 owners, and Uncharted, MGS 4, Killzone which is way better than Gears, and also we are getting many more games than 360 this year.
.... You have.... halo 3..... Gears... Bioshock....Halo3? wow im gonna have so much fun whith this *****Box, 360. :( bad mistake in wasting 400 for something so gayyyy.
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Re: Shatterdome (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Yea
Im sorry after researching this i come to realize how stupid i am and how right this article is. I didn't realize it, Stealth your right in your last statement when you told me the truth.
Im sorry after researching this i come to realize how stupid i am and how right this article is. I didn't realize it, Stealth your right in your last statement when you told me the truth.
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Re: Proud-To-Be-A-Satanist (Unregistered) - 2007-07-04 |
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» Real mature you little 2 yearolds
nice to know that their are still little babies out their who will put on a tantrum when they have people that oppose their opinion[you know who you are, you right-wing nuts]...look at the facts, yes their are Many, many problems with the 360...but i want to put one myth to rest right now THERE IS NO DISC SCRATCHING 'PROBLEM' the disc scratching occurs because Microsoft wanted to get the games too never skip or that kind of stuff so they put the laser REELY close to the disc...and now if you slightly bump your 360 it will scratch it, but you know what? you can send it in to Microsoft for around 10$ shipping and get them to put these little rubber things in their to stop the scratching for free, im not saying that the '33%' statistic is wrong but I just personally think it was pulled out of some ones ass so they could get attention[A.K.A. the weapons of mass destruction lie], and it was MY choice to get the 360 because I personally believe it has better games and better graphics...though i did play the ps3 at EB games and I will say that it kicks ASS...im even thinking of buying one, so don%u2019t think call me a 360 fanboy im a video game fanboy
BTW-you all make it out like Microsoft is so corrupt%u2026well remember how sony only gave each store around 20 ps3%u2019s at a time just to drive up the prices?
nice to know that their are still little babies out their who will put on a tantrum when they have people that oppose their opinion[you know who you are, you right-wing nuts]...look at the facts, yes their are Many, many problems with the 360...but i want to put one myth to rest right now THERE IS NO DISC SCRATCHING 'PROBLEM' the disc scratching occurs because Microsoft wanted to get the games too never skip or that kind of stuff so they put the laser REELY close to the disc...and now if you slightly bump your 360 it will scratch it, but you know what? you can send it in to Microsoft for around 10$ shipping and get them to put these little rubber things in their to stop the scratching for free, im not saying that the '33%' statistic is wrong but I just personally think it was pulled out of some ones ass so they could get attention[A.K.A. the weapons of mass destruction lie], and it was MY choice to get the 360 because I personally believe it has better games and better graphics...though i did play the ps3 at EB games and I will say that it kicks ASS...im even thinking of buying one, so don%u2019t think call me a 360 fanboy im a video game fanboy
BTW-you all make it out like Microsoft is so corrupt%u2026well remember how sony only gave each store around 20 ps3%u2019s at a time just to drive up the prices?
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by Chad (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Dead 360
Mine just died last night. Probably too much Forza. It was a launch console with no problems until last night.
Mine just died last night. Probably too much Forza. It was a launch console with no problems until last night.
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by cheatmaster27(of cheat code central) (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» MS just abuses their power.
They are just using the consumor to make them buy 2nd rate consoles that will break so you buy more. See the picture?
They are just using the consumor to make them buy 2nd rate consoles that will break so you buy more. See the picture?
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by a (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Who cares?a
Who cares?
As long as mine is working I (like all other 360 owners) dont care what the supposed failure rate is.
I mean, look at the failure rate of the PS2 (lasers anyone?), and theres still tons of idiots who ran out and bought a $600 ps3. Not to mention that when their ps2 did fail they went out and bought another one, thus causing the success rate to increase.
And to all the ps3 fanboys who think this is the greatest news youve heard in a while, well, it probably is. Its not like you guys have any games to be excited about.
Who cares?
As long as mine is working I (like all other 360 owners) dont care what the supposed failure rate is.
I mean, look at the failure rate of the PS2 (lasers anyone?), and theres still tons of idiots who ran out and bought a $600 ps3. Not to mention that when their ps2 did fail they went out and bought another one, thus causing the success rate to increase.
And to all the ps3 fanboys who think this is the greatest news youve heard in a while, well, it probably is. Its not like you guys have any games to be excited about.
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Re: b (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» fdgal
the ps2 laser problem is so easy to fix, any halfwit could do it (i guess you couldnt based on that assumption) My ps2 had DRE's after 6 years. Yes, 6 years and i fixed it the same day. Real big problem, this isnt like the 360 where the motherboard melts, the fans go homo and the lights say WTF HAPPENED I DYINGZZZZ
the ps2 laser problem is so easy to fix, any halfwit could do it (i guess you couldnt based on that assumption) My ps2 had DRE's after 6 years. Yes, 6 years and i fixed it the same day. Real big problem, this isnt like the 360 where the motherboard melts, the fans go homo and the lights say WTF HAPPENED I DYINGZZZZ
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Re: andrewsqual (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Eh yeah except
Afrika, Angel Rings, Eight days, EyeDentify, Fifth Phantom Saga, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Folks Soul, God of War 3
-Gradius, Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo HD, Gretzky NHL, Heavenly Sword, Hot Shots Golf 5, Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier, Killzone 2, Lair, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4,
Monster Hunter 3, My Singstar, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Ni-Oh, Ratchet + Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, Redwood Falls, Resistance: Rise of Man, Ridge Racer 7, Shin Megami Tensei, Tekken 6, The Eye of Judgment, The Getaway, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, WarDevil Enigma, Warhawk, White Knight Story, Wipeout. And thats just teh exclusives also E3 is next week so expect that list to increase. I wouldn't base a console with 90% 1st person shooters as having alot of games when they are all got to do with the same thing: point and shoot.
Afrika, Angel Rings, Eight days, EyeDentify, Fifth Phantom Saga, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Folks Soul, God of War 3
-Gradius, Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo HD, Gretzky NHL, Heavenly Sword, Hot Shots Golf 5, Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier, Killzone 2, Lair, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4,
Monster Hunter 3, My Singstar, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Ni-Oh, Ratchet + Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, Redwood Falls, Resistance: Rise of Man, Ridge Racer 7, Shin Megami Tensei, Tekken 6, The Eye of Judgment, The Getaway, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, WarDevil Enigma, Warhawk, White Knight Story, Wipeout. And thats just teh exclusives also E3 is next week so expect that list to increase. I wouldn't base a console with 90% 1st person shooters as having alot of games when they are all got to do with the same thing: point and shoot.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-07-03 |
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» to "b"
You can keep your 360 from overheating much easier than fixing the DRE on a PS2 (see post above.) I know, I've done both. Now that I don't need to ever worry about 3RL overheating on my 360, if I ever have disc read errors, I can buy a whole new DVD drive for only $45! Less than the cost of a PS2 laser! Like I said, my XBOX will last forever, even if it was to require maintenance.
How hard is it to adjust a bluray laser when it has disc read errors though? Has anyone had that problem yet? Good luck with that in 2-4 years. Better get it exact to read all the different disc types without touching the disc. Oops! Too close, that ultra hard blu ray disc coating just scratched your $200 blu ray laser. Buy a new one or send it into sony. After the PS3's warranty is up, you're totally screwed.
You don't realize the PS3 is nearly impossible to fix yourself. Sony may not even offer to fix out of warranty systems, probably not, they need the sales.
You can keep your 360 from overheating much easier than fixing the DRE on a PS2 (see post above.) I know, I've done both. Now that I don't need to ever worry about 3RL overheating on my 360, if I ever have disc read errors, I can buy a whole new DVD drive for only $45! Less than the cost of a PS2 laser! Like I said, my XBOX will last forever, even if it was to require maintenance.
How hard is it to adjust a bluray laser when it has disc read errors though? Has anyone had that problem yet? Good luck with that in 2-4 years. Better get it exact to read all the different disc types without touching the disc. Oops! Too close, that ultra hard blu ray disc coating just scratched your $200 blu ray laser. Buy a new one or send it into sony. After the PS3's warranty is up, you're totally screwed.
You don't realize the PS3 is nearly impossible to fix yourself. Sony may not even offer to fix out of warranty systems, probably not, they need the sales.
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Re: funny (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» keep wishing
Umm....keep hoping that there will be faults with the ps3. Its actually very sad that your waiting for something.
Umm....keep hoping that there will be faults with the ps3. Its actually very sad that your waiting for something.
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Re: Seoulfood (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» yea
I agree with andrewsqual. The 360 does have great games out right now. And I'm sure Halo 3 will be great(though I don't really like Halo myself, but I'm of the minority here), but PS3 has THE games that I've been waiting for this next gen. GT5, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Killzone, FFXIII, and MGS4 to name a few. For sure, right now my PS3 isn't getting much more play out of it than Rainbow Six, but I'm going to be spending an ass load of money this Fall/next year on games.
I agree with andrewsqual. The 360 does have great games out right now. And I'm sure Halo 3 will be great(though I don't really like Halo myself, but I'm of the minority here), but PS3 has THE games that I've been waiting for this next gen. GT5, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Killzone, FFXIII, and MGS4 to name a few. For sure, right now my PS3 isn't getting much more play out of it than Rainbow Six, but I'm going to be spending an ass load of money this Fall/next year on games.
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Re: mang (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» I don't care about this failure rate crap, but...
I'm a PS3 fan, but To all the fanboys who say the 360 only has FPSs, here is a list of triple-A 360 exclusives coming out soon
Ace Combat 6
Alan Wake
Banjoo-Kazooie 3
Bioshock
Blue Dragon
Eternal Sonata
Fable 2
GTR
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Lost Odyssey
Mass Effect
MotoGP 07
Postal 3
PGR4
Splinter Cell Conviction
Too Human
Look through that and tell me how many FPS games you see. Because I see one. Not counting Bioshock and Mass Effect cuz theyre RPGs more than FPSs, even though they are in first-person
The full list of 360 exclusives (PS3 exclusives too) can be found here:
http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?artid+7064
Not too many FPSs in the full list either, people really need to stop bringing that up
I'm a PS3 fan, but To all the fanboys who say the 360 only has FPSs, here is a list of triple-A 360 exclusives coming out soon
Ace Combat 6
Alan Wake
Banjoo-Kazooie 3
Bioshock
Blue Dragon
Eternal Sonata
Fable 2
GTR
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Lost Odyssey
Mass Effect
MotoGP 07
Postal 3
PGR4
Splinter Cell Conviction
Too Human
Look through that and tell me how many FPS games you see. Because I see one. Not counting Bioshock and Mass Effect cuz theyre RPGs more than FPSs, even though they are in first-person
The full list of 360 exclusives (PS3 exclusives too) can be found here:
http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?artid+7064
Not too many FPSs in the full list either, people really need to stop bringing that up
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Re: Stealth (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» mang
LOL according to this PS3 has doubled the amount of exclusives than MS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_3_games
Compared to xbox games from this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games
It seems MS will get pounded. by sony exclusives, And here People say they didnt have any LOL yea right And not only that ps3 has more games coming out than Xbox.
LOL according to this PS3 has doubled the amount of exclusives than MS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_3_games
Compared to xbox games from this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games
It seems MS will get pounded. by sony exclusives, And here People say they didnt have any LOL yea right And not only that ps3 has more games coming out than Xbox.
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Re: to mr common sence (Unregistered) - 2007-07-04 |
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» loser
your 360 will last forever because your a loser with nothing better to do than to tinker with your toys, go jump off a bridge you h0m0. some of has lives, family, people who love us, we cant spend all day F*ckin with this $hit console we bought and blindly defending it on message boards like you do.
your 360 will last forever because your a loser with nothing better to do than to tinker with your toys, go jump off a bridge you h0m0. some of has lives, family, people who love us, we cant spend all day F*ckin with this $hit console we bought and blindly defending it on message boards like you do.
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by .. (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» ..
I have a xbox 360 and the only good games are; shadowrun and oblivion (blue dragon, trusty bell and lost odyssey to come), after that its garbage..
I have a xbox 360 and the only good games are; shadowrun and oblivion (blue dragon, trusty bell and lost odyssey to come), after that its garbage..
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Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-07-04 |
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» ...
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by RhysMoN (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» come on!
Come on people lets be fair no way that its 33% i know it does have a high failure rate but it cant be that bad can it lol. By the way playstation fanboys are taking the P I S S out of xbox because of this, but the playstation 3 hasn't even been out a year yet they might start 2 have a high failure rate, u never know or even the wii might.
Come on people lets be fair no way that its 33% i know it does have a high failure rate but it cant be that bad can it lol. By the way playstation fanboys are taking the P I S S out of xbox because of this, but the playstation 3 hasn't even been out a year yet they might start 2 have a high failure rate, u never know or even the wii might.
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Re: Stealth (Unregistered) - 2007-07-04 |
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» lol
And maybe it wont lol. Besides the ps3 did have some problems like the blu-ray diodes during the Christmas break and some laser that was backed up. It has been fixed. I don't expect the ps3 rate to reach over 37%. Since 33% is just from stores you must add the other percentages going to the MS headquarters. That is well over 37%.
Um and i really doubt the wii will at any point.
And maybe it wont lol. Besides the ps3 did have some problems like the blu-ray diodes during the Christmas break and some laser that was backed up. It has been fixed. I don't expect the ps3 rate to reach over 37%. Since 33% is just from stores you must add the other percentages going to the MS headquarters. That is well over 37%.
Um and i really doubt the wii will at any point.
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by ivr56 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» 360 needs a better heatsinks.
re. The Real Truth
(Quote)Poor MicroSux lover, can't handle the truth? Can you!
PS3 sales aree better than XBOX360 during the same period after launch.
Wii is kicking butt.
XBOX360 is dying.
That's the Real Truth man... (Unquote)
Get off this board you fuc*king PS3 fanboy, why are you even here.
The 360 needs more stock coolers. but MS wont put more better ones in, i dont get why they cant put better ones inside.
re. The Real Truth
(Quote)Poor MicroSux lover, can't handle the truth? Can you!
PS3 sales aree better than XBOX360 during the same period after launch.
Wii is kicking butt.
XBOX360 is dying.
That's the Real Truth man... (Unquote)
Get off this board you fuc*king PS3 fanboy, why are you even here.
The 360 needs more stock coolers. but MS wont put more better ones in, i dont get why they cant put better ones inside.
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by TUrnip (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» I just want to game..
I'm one of those sad, pathetic souls who owns both a 360 and a ps3 and I don't really care which system is better than the other. I just want to play games... period
So far.. the ps3 is the only one that lets me do that. I'm one of the lucky ones who hasn't had a systems crash on the 360 yet (so i don't count in their percentage) but i'm far from happy with the system. It crashes/freezes on certain games... a lot. Literally every 20 minutes on Gears of War. I've spoken casually with about a half a dozen people and have yet to hear about a system that has worked flawlessly.
Since i'm out of warranty, it's come to the point where i don't want to buy games for a system which i'm not certain will be able to play them. Though i really wouldn't mind playing Lost Planet, Shadowrun or Crackdown...
I know this will probably fan the flames of brand vs brand posts but.. i don't really care what system i play as long as i can get through a game with no or very minimal problems. Most games are coming out for both systems now and i'm simply picking the system that so far hasn't let me down.
I'm one of those sad, pathetic souls who owns both a 360 and a ps3 and I don't really care which system is better than the other. I just want to play games... period
So far.. the ps3 is the only one that lets me do that. I'm one of the lucky ones who hasn't had a systems crash on the 360 yet (so i don't count in their percentage) but i'm far from happy with the system. It crashes/freezes on certain games... a lot. Literally every 20 minutes on Gears of War. I've spoken casually with about a half a dozen people and have yet to hear about a system that has worked flawlessly.
Since i'm out of warranty, it's come to the point where i don't want to buy games for a system which i'm not certain will be able to play them. Though i really wouldn't mind playing Lost Planet, Shadowrun or Crackdown...
I know this will probably fan the flames of brand vs brand posts but.. i don't really care what system i play as long as i can get through a game with no or very minimal problems. Most games are coming out for both systems now and i'm simply picking the system that so far hasn't let me down.
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Re: alfh (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» what?! no rumble!?
yeah, because all those frame rate issues on that inferior console called the PS3 is what really makes gaming a pleasure.
yeah, because all those frame rate issues on that inferior console called the PS3 is what really makes gaming a pleasure.
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by mikey (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» word
wow not only do they need better heatsinks and fans they ned better dvd drives. The drive puts a scratched circle on the disk if you turn the console i dont know if its the same with the new drives but my samsung and hitachi drive do so. It happened to my Perfect Dark Zero when i first had it and didn't know of the problem and i used a blank cd-r on my hitachi and got the same results. So id like to know whats the % of disk destroyed due to that also??? Microsoft is stealing peoples money but as long as my 360 and ps3 work im happy :)
wow not only do they need better heatsinks and fans they ned better dvd drives. The drive puts a scratched circle on the disk if you turn the console i dont know if its the same with the new drives but my samsung and hitachi drive do so. It happened to my Perfect Dark Zero when i first had it and didn't know of the problem and i used a blank cd-r on my hitachi and got the same results. So id like to know whats the % of disk destroyed due to that also??? Microsoft is stealing peoples money but as long as my 360 and ps3 work im happy :)
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by killalot100 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» true
thats so true i use to work at gamestop when the 360 launched and i had a 360 break out of the box. microsoft does take good cared of this problem but they cant escape the fact that the box is put together like sh*t. i hate it when people say thats there fault that piece of sh#t broke. 360 is a great system but that doesn't mean that they can do that bull*****.
thats so true i use to work at gamestop when the 360 launched and i had a 360 break out of the box. microsoft does take good cared of this problem but they cant escape the fact that the box is put together like sh*t. i hate it when people say thats there fault that piece of sh#t broke. 360 is a great system but that doesn't mean that they can do that bull*****.
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by HackMy360 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» PS3 suks majaor a**
anyone that thinks the 360 is a bad console is just full of s**t
it has all the best games out there and nothing comes close to it not even that PS3 I heard about being "twice as powerful" people are tripping on the quality of games on the 360 and the fact is that this is the best it has ever been and people are still *****ing! I have 2 360's one launch console the other bought in january and not one has given me any problems 33% sounds like the ps3 fangirlz trying to stir up something to get more people to doubt the 360 and buy a ps3. Fact is 360 is the best console out there and has lived up 2 true next-gen and the PS3 will never live up to the hype sony created
anyone that thinks the 360 is a bad console is just full of s**t
it has all the best games out there and nothing comes close to it not even that PS3 I heard about being "twice as powerful" people are tripping on the quality of games on the 360 and the fact is that this is the best it has ever been and people are still *****ing! I have 2 360's one launch console the other bought in january and not one has given me any problems 33% sounds like the ps3 fangirlz trying to stir up something to get more people to doubt the 360 and buy a ps3. Fact is 360 is the best console out there and has lived up 2 true next-gen and the PS3 will never live up to the hype sony created
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Re: AoxomamoxoA (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Indeed
While I agree with you and the points you made, its pretty pointless to say it on the QJ boards. This place is frequented mostly by PS3 fanboys. I mean, take a look around for a minute...
All negative posts about Xbox are Jumped up (12 jumps for this article alone, making it the number one article). All pro Xbox comments are below the neutral 2 and 1/2 star settings, much like how yours is already at 0 stars while all the pro PS3 comments are rated to 5 stars even if they make no sense whatsoever and claim ridiculous things like GTA's exclusiveness to PS3 (which we all know is not true).
While I agree that the PS3 does suck major a** (I had a launch PS3, but sold it a little over a week ago), stating it here is like talking to a brick wall, only the wall isnt made of bricks, its made of idiot fanboys with no clue what theyre talking about. Just let them get it all out of their systems, youd probably be upset too if you bought a $600 console that has no games to look forward to (watch them make a list of games now that only a sony fan would be even remotely interested in).
The people are ignorant beyond ignorance. They believed Sonys hype and lies, so of course they would believe that the failure rate of a rival console is over 30%. The real truth is, we as Xbox 360 owners have an amazing console with a very strong library of games that help put the 360 at number one while they have a pricy bluray player with no real exciting games to play and its stuck far behind in last place (even the Wii easily doubles its sales). So let these kids complain, its the least we could do for them lol.
While I agree with you and the points you made, its pretty pointless to say it on the QJ boards. This place is frequented mostly by PS3 fanboys. I mean, take a look around for a minute...
All negative posts about Xbox are Jumped up (12 jumps for this article alone, making it the number one article). All pro Xbox comments are below the neutral 2 and 1/2 star settings, much like how yours is already at 0 stars while all the pro PS3 comments are rated to 5 stars even if they make no sense whatsoever and claim ridiculous things like GTA's exclusiveness to PS3 (which we all know is not true).
While I agree that the PS3 does suck major a** (I had a launch PS3, but sold it a little over a week ago), stating it here is like talking to a brick wall, only the wall isnt made of bricks, its made of idiot fanboys with no clue what theyre talking about. Just let them get it all out of their systems, youd probably be upset too if you bought a $600 console that has no games to look forward to (watch them make a list of games now that only a sony fan would be even remotely interested in).
The people are ignorant beyond ignorance. They believed Sonys hype and lies, so of course they would believe that the failure rate of a rival console is over 30%. The real truth is, we as Xbox 360 owners have an amazing console with a very strong library of games that help put the 360 at number one while they have a pricy bluray player with no real exciting games to play and its stuck far behind in last place (even the Wii easily doubles its sales). So let these kids complain, its the least we could do for them lol.
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Re: imhotep (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Things break
Fact is, the 360 is breaking at a level unprecendented by any previous console. Cut the fanboi crap and accept that microsoft have to do something about it publicly.
It's not an us versus them thing, it's about getting a properly designed, constructed and reliable device.
Hopefully this will be brought into the mainstream media and microsoft will be forced to do something about it (recall or renewed warranty terms).
I don't want to pull my console apart to prevent it from breaking (lol, as if these "fans" would) as some raving fanboy suggests I should. I just want to play great games!
Fact is, the 360 is breaking at a level unprecendented by any previous console. Cut the fanboi crap and accept that microsoft have to do something about it publicly.
It's not an us versus them thing, it's about getting a properly designed, constructed and reliable device.
Hopefully this will be brought into the mainstream media and microsoft will be forced to do something about it (recall or renewed warranty terms).
I don't want to pull my console apart to prevent it from breaking (lol, as if these "fans" would) as some raving fanboy suggests I should. I just want to play great games!
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Re: qw (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» AoxomamoxoA couldn't be more right
Lol, that's actually why I love coming to this site, to read all the pro-Sony comments by people who have no idea what they're talking about. Some of them are just downright hilarious. Same with the pro-BluRay comments
Lol, that's actually why I love coming to this site, to read all the pro-Sony comments by people who have no idea what they're talking about. Some of them are just downright hilarious. Same with the pro-BluRay comments
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Re: stealth (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» AoxomamoxoA
You want to know why ps3 fans get perfect stars, cause unlike you people and mister common sense, we speak the truth. Come on this is the worse percentage in gaming console history and the funniest this is, its much lager than 33%, since this is only at game stores, what about the failure rates That go to MS headquarters. If you add this to the failure in the MS headquarters Im sure its actually up to 45% if not more. SO this is a problem beyond any problem sony has. And given a few games that makes the system sell, sony my be happy as a clam right now, and sony fans as well.
Sony ps3 has some hardware problems but non that is that big, so right now add price and games coming out like Ninja Gaiden Sigma i say PS3 is about to open up a big can of success.
You want to know why ps3 fans get perfect stars, cause unlike you people and mister common sense, we speak the truth. Come on this is the worse percentage in gaming console history and the funniest this is, its much lager than 33%, since this is only at game stores, what about the failure rates That go to MS headquarters. If you add this to the failure in the MS headquarters Im sure its actually up to 45% if not more. SO this is a problem beyond any problem sony has. And given a few games that makes the system sell, sony my be happy as a clam right now, and sony fans as well.
Sony ps3 has some hardware problems but non that is that big, so right now add price and games coming out like Ninja Gaiden Sigma i say PS3 is about to open up a big can of success.
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Re: Shatterdome - 2007-07-03 |
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» Imhotep...
MS already admitted they screwed up on consoles manufactured in 2005....which was probably close to 2 million of them...
Who's to say these "reliable" sources aren't just dealing with fallout from launch, and all new systems are fine ?
Both do say "at time of launch it was...." then give their oh so accurate "guesstimates"....
Nothing talks about recent figures, the poll didn't ask actual consumers....not to mention did they say anything about critical defects...
There are many people that buy the extended warranty and purposefully "break" their console after 6months to a year to get a new one.....or because they have the warranty will bring the console in for a replacement everytime the console does something odd, like a random freeze or something "oh noes gotta get it replaced" Sorry no....
something like the PS3's controllers going out of sync for a second randomly....not a big deal, it's an annoyance....but if you have a warranty, that's something some people would bring in their console to get replaced...again and again...thinking it will be fixed...
Funny how they also only Surveyed based on how many extened warranties were cashed in....
Sorry, too much guessing and random factors involved for the survey to be even remotely accurate....
MS already admitted they screwed up on consoles manufactured in 2005....which was probably close to 2 million of them...
Who's to say these "reliable" sources aren't just dealing with fallout from launch, and all new systems are fine ?
Both do say "at time of launch it was...." then give their oh so accurate "guesstimates"....
Nothing talks about recent figures, the poll didn't ask actual consumers....not to mention did they say anything about critical defects...
There are many people that buy the extended warranty and purposefully "break" their console after 6months to a year to get a new one.....or because they have the warranty will bring the console in for a replacement everytime the console does something odd, like a random freeze or something "oh noes gotta get it replaced" Sorry no....
something like the PS3's controllers going out of sync for a second randomly....not a big deal, it's an annoyance....but if you have a warranty, that's something some people would bring in their console to get replaced...again and again...thinking it will be fixed...
Funny how they also only Surveyed based on how many extened warranties were cashed in....
Sorry, too much guessing and random factors involved for the survey to be even remotely accurate....
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by Anthony (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Still Love It
I'm currently on my fourth 360 and i still love the console.
I'm currently on my fourth 360 and i still love the console.
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Re: imhotep (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» ...
and that's great. It's fine to love the games but still expect more from the reliability of the system!
Four systems though, you're a more patient person than I...
and that's great. It's fine to love the games but still expect more from the reliability of the system!
Four systems though, you're a more patient person than I...
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Re: xbox 360 ring of death sux! (Unregistered) - 2007-07-24 |
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» 4th xbox? wat a joke!
i dun have such problem with my ps3 coz i dont *****ing get 3 ROD problem!
i dun have such problem with my ps3 coz i dont *****ing get 3 ROD problem!
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by fff (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» fff
thats why u should get a ps3 DUH!
thats why u should get a ps3 DUH!
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Re: Okay (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» Stop Typing
Everyone should stop typing about the 360 and how bad it is. Why are fanboys of other consoles on xbox360.qj.net anyways? So they can find a headline that shows something is wrong and then make themselves feel better because they have seond thoughts about their ps3. Ok we bought a console why does everyone care so much and you act like your comments will make us go out and buy one right now. Whoever bought a 360 has one and probably loves Live and whoever bought a PS3 is happy with it to because they liked the PS2. Everyone should just stop trying to convince each other to buy their console. STOP BUGGING US.
Everyone should stop typing about the 360 and how bad it is. Why are fanboys of other consoles on xbox360.qj.net anyways? So they can find a headline that shows something is wrong and then make themselves feel better because they have seond thoughts about their ps3. Ok we bought a console why does everyone care so much and you act like your comments will make us go out and buy one right now. Whoever bought a 360 has one and probably loves Live and whoever bought a PS3 is happy with it to because they liked the PS2. Everyone should just stop trying to convince each other to buy their console. STOP BUGGING US.
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by lala (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» wow
hahahhahahahhahahahahahahahah *****ggaaaaaaaaaa aghghhahahha OH ***** IF I WAS A G@Y 60 OWNER I WULD BE SO *****IN SCARED EVERYDAY AFTER THE AWARRANTY IF MA ***** BROKE
hahahhahahahhahahahahahahahah *****ggaaaaaaaaaa aghghhahahha OH ***** IF I WAS A G@Y 60 OWNER I WULD BE SO *****IN SCARED EVERYDAY AFTER THE AWARRANTY IF MA ***** BROKE
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by Hackmy360 (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» idiotz
Wow!! it amazes me more everyday how dumb people are but like I said before all you sony fangirlz enjoy your ps3...
enjoy looking at it in your entertainment center, enjoy the shiny black finish, enjoy the 10+ games that the system has most which have been on the 360 for over 6 months Me I'll enjoy my new games and a library of almost 200+ games
while u stare wondering what to do with that overpriced blu-ray player
Wow!! it amazes me more everyday how dumb people are but like I said before all you sony fangirlz enjoy your ps3...
enjoy looking at it in your entertainment center, enjoy the shiny black finish, enjoy the 10+ games that the system has most which have been on the 360 for over 6 months Me I'll enjoy my new games and a library of almost 200+ games
while u stare wondering what to do with that overpriced blu-ray player
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Re: Justin (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» how?
How will you enjoy it when it fries itself in a week?
Sucker...
How will you enjoy it when it fries itself in a week?
Sucker...
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by Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» I wonder
I wonder if all these failure rates have anything to do with the intercoller by nyko those things slowly kill your 360 according to microsoft, despite all this people all over the world continue to buy 360s and that is reality, people who want a 360 will buy a 360 even people with 360s that broke are still going to either get it repaired of buy another one so sony fanboys and microsoft haters get lost
I wonder if all these failure rates have anything to do with the intercoller by nyko those things slowly kill your 360 according to microsoft, despite all this people all over the world continue to buy 360s and that is reality, people who want a 360 will buy a 360 even people with 360s that broke are still going to either get it repaired of buy another one so sony fanboys and microsoft haters get lost
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by x360alltheway (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» nice
i love my x360 elite...ps3 fanboyz take a look at this http://youtube.com/watch?v=C0wK9uCkH74
i love my x360 elite...ps3 fanboyz take a look at this http://youtube.com/watch?v=C0wK9uCkH74
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Re: stealth (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» wow
Wow black color like the first one, HDMI outputs and 120GB harddrive and you calling this something to gloat, in retrospect its just a 120GB, HDMI failure. Since it doesn't have HD-DVD standard and its failing just as much as the regular ones.
Wow black color like the first one, HDMI outputs and 120GB harddrive and you calling this something to gloat, in retrospect its just a 120GB, HDMI failure. Since it doesn't have HD-DVD standard and its failing just as much as the regular ones.
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by oh noes! (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» oh noes!
attack of the ps3 fanboys oh noes! everybody run they might use their six axis on us :S
attack of the ps3 fanboys oh noes! everybody run they might use their six axis on us :S
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by na2rul - 2007-07-03 |
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» Microsofties.....
....theyre hardware amatuers. PERIOD
And who did they employ to design it? mo amatuers lol
....theyre hardware amatuers. PERIOD
And who did they employ to design it? mo amatuers lol
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by pjeid (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» yeah
im a 360 FAN, not fanboy, i used to be a sony fan, but lately man i cant swallow it, my 360 3rlod'd but eh, i was pissed at first, but i fixed it myself for only a few bux, and now its better than ever, yes its pathetic that MS did such a *****ty job in the engineering of this machine. w/e guys , i guess u buy a wii for party games only, a ps3 as a bd player, or u buy a 360 and be prepared to redo the x clamps and still enjoy a large library of games here and on the way... meh its urs choice, i got a psp which i modded out for better use and access, a 360 with mods and replaced clamps etc which runs like a beaut now, and a wii, which aint doin much but eh it should pay off in the next year or so, at least it was cheap, and no ambition to buy a ps3 atm , more games need to be available, end of story, so find what u like to play and run with it! its rly not that hard
im a 360 FAN, not fanboy, i used to be a sony fan, but lately man i cant swallow it, my 360 3rlod'd but eh, i was pissed at first, but i fixed it myself for only a few bux, and now its better than ever, yes its pathetic that MS did such a *****ty job in the engineering of this machine. w/e guys , i guess u buy a wii for party games only, a ps3 as a bd player, or u buy a 360 and be prepared to redo the x clamps and still enjoy a large library of games here and on the way... meh its urs choice, i got a psp which i modded out for better use and access, a 360 with mods and replaced clamps etc which runs like a beaut now, and a wii, which aint doin much but eh it should pay off in the next year or so, at least it was cheap, and no ambition to buy a ps3 atm , more games need to be available, end of story, so find what u like to play and run with it! its rly not that hard
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by video (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» tell me what you think
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wOURHPfA-hU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wOURHPfA-hU
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Re: stealth (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» cool
I liked it, who's that person with kick a.s.s moves saying, its my time to save you snake
I liked it, who's that person with kick a.s.s moves saying, its my time to save you snake
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by happy (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» cool
my xbox 360 is still going strong :) i got it on launch day.
my xbox 360 is still going strong :) i got it on launch day.
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by my 2 cents (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» te way it is
although everytime i turn on my 360, i expect the worse, it has yet to plaige me. although i have had a ton of problems, maybe countless. my 360 still lives. I do like my 360 but they just rushed it. it may have been first but if it werent for ps3 and wii lack of library. 360 would hit the ground hard. in time ps3's online will shed its diaper and grow into a good online unit. and in time wii will go online. until than its live that keeps the box... well live. until these metions occur though 360 will continue to stand. But in time i have a feeling that it will fail as a system and will rely on yet another halo.. and in time wii's greatness will fade and do to its graphic inferriority, it will join gamecube on tthe shelf, only selling around the major commercial holidays. it's to bad though, if 360 had the ps3's cell and its lack of death rate, and the wii's inovative idea team. maybe together the fairly tale system could be a part of every industrialized house hold. Maybe like a computer is. infortunately because video game systems are only there because there making someone big bucks no matter how hard they fail, this fairly tale legend will not ever see the light of day. Does no one care to stand against the legendary big three and fight the good fight. Does no one have the ability to make this fairy tale into a reality. only time will tell.
although everytime i turn on my 360, i expect the worse, it has yet to plaige me. although i have had a ton of problems, maybe countless. my 360 still lives. I do like my 360 but they just rushed it. it may have been first but if it werent for ps3 and wii lack of library. 360 would hit the ground hard. in time ps3's online will shed its diaper and grow into a good online unit. and in time wii will go online. until than its live that keeps the box... well live. until these metions occur though 360 will continue to stand. But in time i have a feeling that it will fail as a system and will rely on yet another halo.. and in time wii's greatness will fade and do to its graphic inferriority, it will join gamecube on tthe shelf, only selling around the major commercial holidays. it's to bad though, if 360 had the ps3's cell and its lack of death rate, and the wii's inovative idea team. maybe together the fairly tale system could be a part of every industrialized house hold. Maybe like a computer is. infortunately because video game systems are only there because there making someone big bucks no matter how hard they fail, this fairly tale legend will not ever see the light of day. Does no one care to stand against the legendary big three and fight the good fight. Does no one have the ability to make this fairy tale into a reality. only time will tell.
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by F bill gates (Unregistered) - 2007-07-03 |
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» dillweed
that C*ck smoker needs to stop worrying about people driving f*ckin hybrids and saving darfur and run his goddamn company before i have my own genocide at the microsoft factory!
that C*ck smoker needs to stop worrying about people driving f*ckin hybrids and saving darfur and run his goddamn company before i have my own genocide at the microsoft factory!
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